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kain_kusanagi on 05 March 2012
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NightDragon83 said:
kain_kusanagi said:
NightDragon83 said:
kain_kusanagi said:
NightDragon83 said:

Wow... so far in this thread we have a guy who thinks that the DKC series was BORING, but somehow loves Returns which is just DKC with tacked on motion controls and 10 times the mine cart / forced scrolling levels.

And we have another who thinks that Wii Music was a great game.

 

I said I thought Returns was better, I never said I loved it. What I love is the original arcade Donkey Kong games. But yes, in my opinion the DK Country games are tedious. I only brought it up as an example of a series I believe to be more overated than Sonic's latest efforts of which I have fun playing.

See what I did there? 

Well, what you find tedious I find challenging and addictive. The original arcade Donkey Kong appeals to me in the same was as I think golf appeals to golfers. It's simple and challenging, but rewarding and no matter how good you get there's always room to improve.

DK Country on the other hand I just don't "get". I love platformers like Mario, Sonic, Castlevania, Mega Man, etc. but compared to those classics DK Country feels slow and plodding.  Collecting bananas should be as fun as collecting Sonic's rings, but I find myself skipping the former and obsessively hording the latter. It's just not for me.

UHHHHHH.... gee, maybe that's because they each constitute two entirely different gameplay functions?!?

The rings in Sonic games are basically health and are an absolute necessity for survival in such a fast paced game, because without them it's 1-hit and you're dead.  The bananas in DKC serve the exact same purpose as coins do in every single Mario game... get a free life for every 100 you collect.  That's it.  Do you have a problem with collecting coins in Mario games as well?

I don't have a problem with you enjoying the classic DK games while not really feeling the DKC SNES games, but what I simply can't understand is your reasoning why the DKC games are so inferior to other platformers....  DKC is slow and plodding compared to CASTLEVANIA???

As John Mcenroe would say... you cannot be serious!

Castlevania's movement may be slow, but the action is frenetic. I don't find anything slow or tedious about dodging medusa heads while trying to hit a skeleton in the face with a throwing knife.

Oh and I completely understand the difference between collecting for health and collecting just to collect with the added bonus of a 1up now and then. I don't really collect coins in Mario games, but I still have tons of fun zipping though the levels. Take away Mario's coins and it's essentially the same fun game. Take away the collectables in DK Country and you're left with what I experience playing the game, good music, nice graphics, mundane gameplay. Collecting the bananas and the letters just seems like an arbitrary task. I find Mario and Sonic fun because running and jumping around the levels is challenging and rewarding. You don't need to actually collect anything to have fun, but if you do, it adds a layer of exploration. You might say DK Country's collectables fit that bill, but when I play the game I find myself asking "why is this fun again?"

It's clear to me that you love DK Country and don't care for DK arcade. That's find, I have the opposite opinion, but that's ok. What I don't understand is why it disturbs you so much that someone disagrees with your opinion. I don't have to like DK Country and I'm allowed to enjoy a Sonic game every now and then.

Yes, I am serious, but unlike McEnroe I'm not pissed off and throwing tennis rackets. Can't we just agree to disagree on this? I stated an opinion and I'm growing tired of that opinion being belittled. As if anyone's opinion is worth more than anyone else's.