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robjoh said:

First, please keep this thread as good as it is no flame baits and so on

Some points I think I have stated before but I do want to state them again.

The impact of the superior graphics for the competion on Wii sales:

This I think might be a big deal in the Westen countries, but to be honest I don't think it will matter at all in Japan. The key audiance in Japan for the moment is the casual gamers that is buying Wii Sport/Play. I have hard to belive that anyone buying Wii Sports in Japan will stop buying it because of better graphical powers for xbox360 or PS3. I think Japan for this gen will be in Nintendo hands, this will of course not give the Wii a free ride to 100 millions, but they could end up selling 20 million+ in Japan without any problems.

Lifespann:

Wii is coming from a company that kept the gameboy out for 10 years, that hold on to NES for a long time. I will say that as long as Wii is selling they wont remove it.

Lack of 3rd party support

So far Wii has shown that Nintendo doesn't need 3rd party support to sell well. I actualy think this is because Wii has momentum and good word of mouth, not that the price is lower than the competition. I actualy hope and belive that jlauro have right with his prediction because that would mean that we really get an inccrease in gaiming population. If Nintendo themselves could deliver the games "non-gamers" want 3rd party support wont be an issue.

Price

I think that as long as the price for Wii is mass market the competions price wont matter if, and only if (hehe haven't wrotten that since I did my last math teasis), they go for another demographics.

So I would be surprissed if Wii ended up below 40 millions because I do belive that Wii will sell less than 20 millions in Japan. If they are going to sell above 100 millions they need to improve their production a lot.


I agree, I think the Wii will be the biggest platform in this generation in Japan.

What was the competition for the Gameboy after it got shot of the GameGear and the Lynx?  Nothing...that's why it lasted so long.  Any company will try and keep their console on the market for as long as possible....but in the end, they will replace it or get out the market.

IMHO, the Wii has had a very easy ride.  If it weren't for the ridiculously high cost of the PS3 and the lack of software support for the PS3 as well, I seriously doubt the Wii would be selling as well as it is.  Although I agree that there is a percentage of new gamers just buying it for Sports etc....that wouldn't buy a PS3 or 360.

As I've said before....I honestly feel that the handheld market it pulling a percentage of gamers to the side of handhelds, thus reducing the number of home console gamers.  People are finding it harder and harder to dedicate time to playing games...especially when you get older and are supposed to grow up...but portable gaming is a very easy simple solution to this.

I personally feel that this home console generation (Wii, 360 and PS3) will be a smaller community over the course....than the last generation.  Don't forget...Sony was bringing in no gamers with Sing Song and Buzz for some time now as well...and these people may or may not upgrade to a Wii or PS3 or anything. 



Prediction (June 12th 2017)

Permanent pricedrop for both PS4 Slim and PS4 Pro in October.

PS4 Slim $249 (October 2017)

PS4 Pro $349 (October 2017)