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SamuelRSmith said:
enrageorange said:

Plenty of good things with Ron Paul, but also plenty of bad things. For every pointless part of the government he wishes to get rid of, there is a nessessary part of it he wishes to get rid of as well. 

And the one thing alot of his supporters fail to realize is that most of his plans will NEVER go through, even if he is to become president. The president isn't some omnipotent force that can accomplish anything. What he wants to do is greatly limit the power of the government, and that has to be apporoved by the Senate and the House... which are part of the government... Its not going to happen anytime soon especially since the republican and democratic establishment are both still very much for big government. 


His foreign policy (entirely the best reason to vote for him) is entirely at the disposal of the President. He can also play the parties against eachother. Remember, he has no loyalty to the establishment Republicans... he'd happily side with the Democrats to reduce the Government in certain aspects, and side with the Republicans to deal with others.

What's important though, is that a Paul win isn't just about his Presidency. It could effectively change the path that America is taking, after a President Paul, would the people accept an Obama again? I very much doubt it, or, at least, not for a very long time. The Congress would also start to reflect that change, not to mention any judges that Paul appoints.

I agree with Senator Jim DeMint. What Paul represents is a change in the Republican party. At the moment, the Republican party is a combination of conservatives and moderates. What's been changing, though, is that the Libertarian voice in the party is growing - Ron/Rand/Marco/DeMint/Amash, etc. Even if Paul doesn't win the Presidency, it will be another successful night in the Congress for the Libertarian movement. Republicans are slowly changing from a Conservative/Moderate party, to a Libertarian/Conservative party. That will have massive implications going forward.

So, no, Paul won't get everything he wants done. He will get a lot done, though, but more importantly, he'll shift the direction so that it will continue going that way.

I see the coming elections as a choice between trending towards tyranny, or trending towards liberty. At heart, I'm an optimist, so I hope Paul is extremely successful... even if he doesn't win the Presidency, the Congressionals will reflect the change.

Both "conservative" and moderates in the republican party want big government no matter how much they might try to convince the voters so there will always be a big part of the republican party that wants  it. Also I think it is a bad idea to remove all foreign stationed troops. No I don't think we should be occupying unfriendly nations, but people really underestimate the importance of influencing other countries and what would happen otherwise that won't just affect other nations, but America as well. The America Paul wants won't have any "government tyranny" but I think people will begin missing some aspects of big government rather quickly if his vison somehow becomes reality.