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Boutros said:
Untamoi said:
ryuzaki57 said:
hatmoza said:
Boutros said:
Acevil said:
Boutros said:
FFVII had a 84% drop.

FFVIII had a 89% drop.

FFIX had a 83% drop.

FFX had a 87% drop.

FFX-2 had a 88% drop.

FFXII had a 87% drop.

FXIII had a 87% drop.

FFXIII-2 has a 77% drop.


But all previously listed titles started really huge if I am not mistaken. Taking that into account this drop is still a huge drop, but it looks significantly less because it had bad first week (by FF standards, not a bad week by normal games). 

Yes but why didn't it drop the same as other FF games?

Probably because a lot of people held off before buying it as they were disappointed with FFXIII but now they hear it's a good game and they decide to buy it! If you have a better reason please do tell.


This has to be the most interesting argument I've seen in a while. Desperate angle, but interesting nonetheless Boutrous.

Basically what you are saying is that 10% FF XIII-2 Japanese buyers in the second week made that perchase based on word of mouth.

As my new hubby acevil mentioned, first week was so bad compared to other FF first week sales that the % is slightly greater.

Boutros obviously needs help here.

Hatmoza, if your theory "FFXIII was crap so people don't buy the sequel" is to be believed, shouldn't FFXIII-2 sales have declined even faster? Obviously the diehard fans bought it day 1 or 2, but why did the "disappointed" fans bother going buy it on 2nd week or even at all?

Boutros' theory is the most likely. You have to accept the positiveness of this hold.

The truth is that those opening badly have smaller decline even if word of mouth is worse. Regardless, FFXIII-2 is still a huge flop, it doesn't really matter if it dropped 77% or 87%. Publishers don't care about drop rates, they care about total sales. If game sells less than half of the expected, it always a huge flop, regardless of drop reates. Actually, publishers would prefer game which would have 9M FW and have 10M total over game which has 0.1M FW and 10M total. 

Edit. And, obviously, second week of FFXIII-2 is inflated because it is christmas week (when a lot games INCREASE sales). Without christmas, it would have dropped more than 85%.

FFXIII also came out during the Chirstmas season.

And we know they shipped 850k. That number sets their expectations. If they do sell all shipment then how can it be considered a flop?

This isn't true, a shipment does not equal expectation. I never heard a case of the first shipment = expectations.