Happy upcoming birthday Jesus! ....in May?

[Slimebeast]

Dr.Grass said:

Slimebeast said:

Dr.Grass said:
- Jesus' birth story is most likely a fabrication

- He went to India and learnt Buddhism and Vaisnavism

- The Christianity lived out by his 'believers' is very far removed from the ascetic, simple lifestyle he practically showed

- He was most probably a vegetarian

- He possibly never drank any wine

- He never stated he was the only way

- We should worship the Sun once again (the Moon, earth and elements also)


Ok, so which one of those points do stand by most strongly? More importantly, are any of them false?

Wishful thinking.

On topic I agree that we shouldn't make a big deal out of Jesus' birthday even if we knew the exact date because those are pagan ways. A Christian should celebrate Jesus every day.

- There are several independent temple archives that explain how Issa putra (son of God) came from the mlecha countries of the west (mlecha = uncultured) and how he learnt the spiritual teachings of India. There are even scriptural predictions of him coming to India (Bhavishya Purana; Compiled well before Jesus' birth). 

- the word 'flesh' is never used in connection to Jesus. The word for flesh is 'kreas'. This is never, ever used in connection to Jesus. The common translation of ''... Jesus said gave him meat to eat'', is translated from the word 'trophe' which simply means 'to eat'. Not to mention the dead sea scrolls, James (Jesus' brother who was certainly a vegetarian), etc.

- The word always translated for wine is 'oinos'. There is strong historical proof that this referred to a thickened grape juice that was specifically prepared not to spoil. This point is a little harder to factually verify, but no doubt it is very possibly true - the traditions of the east do not condone intoxication.

- the only way: Answered in post above.

 

These things I'm just giving from memory, so some of the Greek words might be spelt wrong. In any case, I've done much research on this matter and several talks at Uni, so I'd be happy if someone challenges me.

- "Temple archives"? From India? It's a ridicilous theory (that Jesus went to India and studied buddhism).

- Flesh or not, Luke 24:41:

⁴¹And while [since] they still could not believe it for sheer joy and marveled, He said to them, Have you anything here to eat?

    ⁴²They gave Him a piece of broiled fish,

    ⁴³And He took [it] and ate [it] before them

You aren't a vegetarian if you eat fish. And most likely Jesus ate the Passover lamb too. I'd very much like Jesus to be a vegetarian but the facts are against it.

- The grape juice argument. It's says clearly time and time again in the Bible that people get intoxicated (happyness, be filled with the Spirit instead of wine, absence from wine, absence from drinking, bad judgement etc) from drinking this grape juice and that's the definition of wine.

- John 14:6 "No one comes to the Father except through me"