Is there any genre's that WiiU cannot dominate?

[Roma]

Yakuzaice said:

Roma said:

Maybe we are looking at it completely different but the way I see is that you have a map were you can easily select units or just a few by drawing a circle around the ones you want to move and just direct them or tell them to guard or whatever ability they have and can use.

The only game I played MP in was RA2 but that was many years ago so things have most likely changed from then till now or maybe they haven’t I don’t know.

That’s nothing that the screen can’t handle either for moving around or selecting troops and telling them what to do. I don’t see how things will take longer using touch instead of a mouse but then I haven’t played games both ways so I can’t say for sure.

You might have played a game using touch developed in a wrong way or maybe you played it on a phone or something.

Scrolling is no problem either. Just like you put your courser at the end of the PC screen to move around quickly it can be done on the screen as well.

It might never be as perfect as PC gamers want it to be but it will be close.

The problem is you are comparing it to a scenario where a person only uses the mouse and only uses one button on it.  That person wouldn't be very competitive to begin with, and using the WiiU tablet would be even worse.  Using a keyboard in conjunction with a mouse massively increases your productivity and combat effectiveness.  Looking at StarCraft 2 again, things like stutter step, blink micro, forcefields, really any unit with an ability would be significantly worse if not impossible.  I don't think you realize how much time you save when you just hit a hotkey to do something rather than going down to the menu, selecting it, then going back up to the game screen to execute that action.  Especially when you do that multiple times in a short period such as using blink (stalker ability in starcraft 2).

Also, there are probably a lot more physical and technical limitations to a touchscreen.  Do you think that the touchscreen would be able to recognize multiple actions within a second?  If I select 10 barracks and want to build 20 marines, which will I be able to press faster the touchscreen 20 times or a key on my keyboard 20 times?  Also the Wii U screen is pretty small and low resolution.  How can a finger or stylus compare in speed or accuracy to a mouse?  So your potential inputs are two shoulder buttons, a dpad. an analog stick, and a touchscreen.  I guess left handed people would have four face buttons rather than a dpad.  That really isn't much, almost everything would need to be done through the touchscreen.  Which means that the touchscreen needs to display the same thing as the tv or else you would have to split your attention too much.  So if you're spending all your time looking at the controller, and most of the inputs are through the touchscreen, how would it be any better than an Ipad?

I feel like I kind of rambled about a lot of different things there.  The long and short of it is that the Wii U controller would only be close to an extreme novice using a keyboard and mouse to play an RTS.

Sure it might not compare to PC but then WiiU owners aren’t going to play RTS against PC players right? So that put people on an even plane in terms of how to use stuff. The same thing can be said about any other game that is better on PC and less good on consoles they are still not playing against each other in most cases that wouldn’t even be fair to people with regular controls. I didn’t think I’d have to mention that you can put buttons on the screen as that is pretty obvious to anyone.

The screen is very responsive as shown in the Zelda demo but you might not have seen that one but that doesn’t mean it does not exist to show what it can do in terms of responsiveness. They turned the lights on and off repeatedly as fast as you would press a keyboard button.

You don’t use the entire keyboard to do stuff in games on PC. The screen is 6.5 inch so there is a lot of room on it. So you can put lots of buttons on the screen that would replace the keyboarded ones.

Left handed people will have no problem just as it was no problem with DS. The buttons and D-pad are mapped parallel to each other so they would easily be able to switch between left and right if the developer allows that of course

If you can’t see the possibility of it working then that’s you but it doesn’t mean it can’t be done and done very well even but as I said before it wont be as good as PC but it will be very close.