Is there any genre's that WiiU cannot dominate?

[Roma]

Shinobi-san said:

Roma said:

Shinobi-san said:
It might do RTS better than current consoles but it stil wont match up against the PC. Considering RTS games have a big focus on multiplayer and competition, the controls needs to be able to allow for that.

What does the PC have that can’t be added to the touch screen?  If it is going to have great online as they are saying why can’t it handle a PC RTS?

Im not sure why you mentioning this ? I didnt address online functionality at all and i did not say the wii u cant handle a PC RTS.

Anyways back to the controls....I think its too early to give an informed opinion. We first have to see how the touch controls will be adapted to RTS gameplay.

But as it stands now and in my understanding of how touch controls will work, the controls wont match up to pc mouse and keyboard controls. Take for example the usual RTS control scheme for a game like age of empires or warcraft. Left click is used to select one unit or u can drag to select a range of units. This action is almost instantaneous or as fast as the user does it. Issuing a move command or attack command can very quickly be done with the right click. Again this standard PC RTS control scheme is very quick, precise and responsive. And in competitve type RTS games the speed at which you can do these things and the precision at which you can do this basic actions is paramount to your success. For example a dota game, when one hero is running away from another and you need to quickly navigate the bushes, which are very narrow pathways. Precision, accuracy and speed is needed here.

At this point in time i dont see how touch controls can accomodate this to the same level the mouse can. Selecting a unit will be quick, no problems here, but from my experience with RTS, some other gesture needs to be done to do other things. Like to select multiple units the player might need to touch and hold. this touch and hold motion is commonly used in touch games at the moment and just in general on touch interfaces to add variety. But that extra second or so is time consuming. There will always be that limitation of touch controls in that one touch only has one function at a given time and in order to change that function some other gesture needs to be performed to change it which in turn takes times. Whereas a mouse has instant access to three buttones and the movement of the mouse itself at all times which allows for instand access to more than one type of command.

I was more addressing the statement of Wii U being as good as PC when it comes to RTS which is what was being implied by Joelcool7, obviously the chances of Wii U players playing on the same platform of PC players ina multiplayer game are slim. Wii U players playing amongst themselves there wont be any problems, but this doesnt mean its as good as mouse and keyboard.

But again im limited by my experiences with touch controls...if they can come up with a better way to do it then il reaccess my opinion. 

Well you mentioned MP and RTS games on PC use online when it comes to MP right? I mean you don’t share the same PC.

What’s the difference in pressing a button and touching something on screen and a right mouse click over an army or object in the game and choosing from a list things to do?

Touching and holding? Why is that different than pressing the mouse button and dragging it over anything?

Touch and mouse are basically the same thing the only difference is that the pen doesn’t have buttons so you use the other hand to press and in the mouses case right button, a list comes and you chose what you want.