WW UP 12th of November

[Michael-5]

dsage01 said:

Michael-5 said:

dsage01 said:

If you compare the competition Uncharted 2 had in October (almost nothing) and Uncharted 3 in Novemeber (biggest game of all time in the week after it came out and the biggest RPG launch this year and second to this gen only behind FF13) and BF3 (one of the most hyped games of all time come just one week before it) add other big sellers like AC, Halo and Zelda how could will Uncharted 3 sales be in the second week? But don't worry it will outsell Uncharted 2 for sure and it should hold up at least 150k every week this holiday.

That's the same reason Halo: Reach isn't selling as well as Halo 3. Doesn't change the fact that Halo Reach isn't selling as well as Halo 3, and Uncharted 2 is looking to sell more poorly then Uncharted 3.

Also Uncharted 3 is being bundled pretty substantially.

I don't think any major exclusive this gen will outsell their predesessor now, consoles are over the hill. Gears 3 will beat Gears 1 and 2, but not by as much as many though, Forza 4 might not pass Forza 3, LBP2 won't beat LBP1, same with Motorstorm...Uncharted 3 is in the same boat. Killzone 3 might top Killzone 2, but the difference won't be huge.

Also Halo is a remake. Not a full pledge Halo, and it;s on a different console. That's like saying Zelda will affect Modern Warfare 3 (PS360) sales.

At least try to read my post. What your saying makes no sense at all after looking at my post. And yes MW3 sales did affect Zelda sales. It sold like crap on the U.K. in the first week even below a Halo remake which had no hype. But it may have good legs once the competition is gone as Nintendo games tend to be more leggy. And only based on two weeks data how could you judge Uncharted 3 sales. And that too with many people in denial that it is under tracked. And Uncharted 2 had many bundles since the first day of release. Uncharted 3 didn't have as many bundles compared to UC2. Agreed many of those games will not pass their predesessor at this stage but the games you listed on top had a huge reason why there not selling as well. If it makes you happy I'll list them for you.

Killzone 3: -less hype and scores than Killzone 2

Forza 4: Less hype and Forza 3 had way too many bundles

LBP2: - Bad timing (No game sells in Jan LBP is a holiday type game)

Halo 3: First Halo and more hype

Motorstorm - new games have no hype and less bundles 

I did read you post, and I said most major exclusives aren't selling as well as predecessors, not just Uncharted. It's called expanding the scope of the debate.

Why is hype dying? More competition. Black Ops hype hurt Halo and Killzone 3 hype, GT5's release hurt Forza 4's hype (and the limitations of the 360 prevented too much of an improvement over Forza 3), and releasing in January shouldn't affect casual game sales. Mario Kart Wii sold fine before bundling, and God of War 3 (not casual) sold fine with a March release. At this point in the console war, Call of duty is stealing all the sales, and exclusives are only good well, no better then before.

As for MW3 affecting Zelda sales....Do you really beleive that? WOW

Your right Uncharted 2 had a lot of day 1 bundles, but Uncharted 3 doesn't have any less. It had the limited edition bundle, plus most retailers are bundling the game with PS3's anyway. I'm actually really surprised at sales because I think Uncharted 3 is bundled just as heavy as Halo: Reach is, but it's not selling as well as it should (Mind you 360 owners can't buy a 250GB 360 without Halo: Reach in many region, PS3 owners still have a choice).