atma998 said:
Michael-5 said:
atma998 said:
Michael-5 said:
average annual income per capita is actually 11k, and if it's 2k for black people, that means the capita is 42k per non black person. Canada's capita is 40k, and USA's is 50k (but don't be fooled, USA actually has the highest poverty rate of all the developed countries. They just have super corperations to balance this number).
So 20% of South Africa is stil 1/3rd the population of Canada, and the capita is the same. That would make 1/3rd the game sales very plausible (these places aren't as rural as you think). Johannesburg for instance is more populated then every city above north america except New Mexico, New York City, and Toronto (yay third biggest in NA).
Maybe 400k sales of some of these major franchise installments (lets use GT) might be much, but 200k from this country alone is damn well plausible. Also there are countries in the East coast of Africa, and middle east not accounted for.
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I'm not buying that either.
Let's take your numbers, if all the rest of Americas (exluding USA and Canada) counts for 8.3% of Americas total, then it means that so far a game like GT5 has sold 161k over there. I don't see how african and middle east countries can count for around 4 times more sales than latin america.
Btw Toronto is not the third largest city in NA but the 5th and fall to 8th if we count the metropolitan areas :)
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Yea I heard Toronto was the fifth, but Wikipedia give numbers above Los Angeles and I forget who was forth.
Also Games that are popular in South America =/= games that are popular in South Afirca. One guy from South Africa already corrected me and told me Halo isn't but there. but GT5 is.
Also by total population Afirca is over tiwce as large as South America. Not sure the population of developed (ish) countries, but it's more then SA because Brazil for instance put ridiculously high taxes on consoles so sales are low. Basically Africa and Middle East (on top of those smaller European countries) have more countries and population that game. South Africa, Egypt, Tanzania, Kenya, Saudi Arabia, mant countries in the middle east, and even South Korea give us that 600-700k missing for GT5.
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I heard that racing games are very popular in South America. Anyway we cannot base our estimations on what we hear or not.
Also you can't include South Korea or any other asian countries (maybe even not Middle East countries, since they are part of Asia after all) because the op (and PD) included them into his calculation. PD shipped 230k copies in Asia.
So if the whole Latin America count for 8.3% of the Americas, and that VGC has 1.459M for GT5 in 2010, then it means Latin America sold 121k copies of GT5.
Latin America is 600 million people and its people are generally more rich than in Africa. So even if Africa is 1 billion, I don't think it can sell as much as 600k or 700k . As for the small european countries PD included them in Europe.
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Okay yea true, but games like GT5 sold twice as well in EMEAA, so with a matching population, that's more like 240k game sales.
Anyway, my point is Africa has a significant gaming population, and the Europe in that study is only 17 countries, not 50 (although the other countries are significantly smaller), and the Middle East also has strong gaming populations. Europe does not account for 80% or great of the EMEAA (at least not the 17 larger countries).
South America, at only 8% of 21.5 million PS3 units is only 1.6 million PS3 consoles. Middle East Africa and Asia is 5 million, and I bet 3 million of that is outside of Asia. Add in another 1.5/3 million from Other Europe, and that's about 3x the console user base of Latin America. 3x the user base with 2x the sales per userbase, that's 720k or so, almost exactly what the P thinks these games are overtracked by.
GT5 is not overtracked, same with Halo and others. End of Story.
