Michael-5 said:
atma998 said:
Michael-5 said:
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Michael-5 said:
enrageorange said:
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mjk45 said:
I think your forgetting the middle east they seem to have gotten behind the PS3 also NDP only tracks NA where as Vgchartz is Americas as to Polophony I will leave that to ethmoza . |
NDP only tracks USA, not Canada. VGC include Brazil, Mexico, and many other regions for it's Americas number. However a while ago I read that 87% of the Americas sales are contributed to US sales, and I would assume 8.7% contribute to Canada (1/10th the population).
As for EMEAA, not only did the OP forget the middle east, but they also forgot Africa. In the Middle East, Africa and Asia territory, there are 5 million PS3's and 3 million 360's. 600k for GT5 or Halo off 5 or 3 million consoles is very doable.
That and VGC now track Halo Reach digital sales from the bundle, NDP doesn't include those numbers.
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by asia I meant most of the middle east as well which polyphony includes as part of their asia numbers. As for Africa I have no idea if they would be included under Asia or Europe but either way there is no way Africa is such a signifcant portion of EMEAA.
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The population of Africa is 1 billion people. The number of console gamers there likely exceeds the Middle East. I remember when Halo 3 came out, they had a world map and stars representing clusters of gamers. Most gamers were east/west coast USA/Canada, and there were a lot in Western Europe. However outside of NA and EU, the only places I remember seeing stars were Africa (South Africa and Tanzania), Brazil, and a little bit in Japan.
I said earlier, if US is 87% of Americas, and Canada is 8.7%, then there is still 8.3% of Americas sales contributed to South America. I wouldn't think Africas software sales are any different then South Americas. So if Halo Reach sold 7 million in Americas, this corresponds to 600k sales in South America, which correspond to 600k sales in Africa, which....is magically almost exactly the missing amount from your data.
You might be skeptical that Africa gets as many console sales as South America, but believe me, I've been to Tanzania, it's not as rural as you think. Also unlike Brazil, consoles aren't heavily taxed (a 360 now is still a $600 system there), so even if there are less gamers in South Africa and the east coast, more are able to buy the games.
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Video games are quite popular in South Africa. How many numbers in sales that translates to... not sure. But we have dedicated games retailers here, with midnight launches for bigger games and such things. We get offical ranked servers for the big FPSs etc. If that means anything.
PC gaming is especially huge here. RPGs, racing games and shooters seem to me the most popular. Between X360, PS3, Wii... it seems to me that more people own Xboxes, but PS3 games sell more (i'll let you figure out why). Basing that on what I see on popular online retailers. Wii popularity... not sure (i've got one though).
Also, Gran Turismo, Final Fantasy and Assassin's Creed are very popular titles here. Halo... not so much.
All just my experience, but there you go.
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Exactly my point, the economy of South Africa isn't that different from the US or Canada, and the population is about 1.5 times the size of Canada. So I wouldn't be surprised if South Afirza alone accounted for 400 out of the 600k missing in the OP. Add in Tanzania and other east coast countries and there is your missing sales.
Halo was just an example as it's one of the games listed in the OP, and like I said, I know a good amount of people in South Africa play Halo 3 because it's illuminated on the world play map.
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Wrong.
The average annual income in South Africa is around 10,000$ per capita and and less than 2,000$ per capita for black people who counts for more than 80% of the population.
No way you can compare South Africa to Canada when it comes to video games sales. I'm pretty sure South Africa doesnt have 1/4 of video games sales in Canada.
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average annual income per capita is actually 11k, and if it's 2k for black people, that means the capita is 42k per non black person. Canada's capita is 40k, and USA's is 50k (but don't be fooled, USA actually has the highest poverty rate of all the developed countries. They just have super corperations to balance this number).
So 20% of South Africa is stil 1/3rd the population of Canada, and the capita is the same. That would make 1/3rd the game sales very plausible (these places aren't as rural as you think). Johannesburg for instance is more populated then every city above north america except New Mexico, New York City, and Toronto (yay third biggest in NA).
Maybe 400k sales of some of these major franchise installments (lets use GT) might be much, but 200k from this country alone is damn well plausible. Also there are countries in the East coast of Africa, and middle east not accounted for.
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