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pezus said:
Kynes said:
crissindahouse said:
you still know that africa counts as well right? so 200 million europeans not in this and africa with some countries like huge nigeria. sure they don't have all money there but they have a lot with money and yeah many without anything.


Do you know that those 17 countries in the report should be more than 80% of the total EMEAA sales? They are the biggest markets of Sony in EMEAA by a long shot.

Where did you get the 80%?

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Norway+Finland (about 40-50% of Scandinavian sales): 0.6m

Other European countries that the list lacks:

Ukraine (population 45m)
Romania (22m)
Kazakhstan (16.4m)
Greece (11.6m)
Belarus (10.3m)
Serbia (7.8m)
Bulgaria (7.6m)
Switzerland (7.3m)
Georgia (5m)
Croatia (4.5m)
Moldova (4.4m)
Bosnia and Herzegovina (4m)
Lithuania (3.6m)
Albania (3.5m)
Armenia (3.3m)
Latvia (2.4m)
Macedonia (2.1m)
Slovenia (2.1m)
Estonia (1.4m)
Cyprus (0.8m)
Montenegro (0.6m)
Luxembourg (0.5m)
Malta (0.4m)
Iceland (0.35m - probably one of the biggest PS3 countries when talking about marketshare)
About 10 other countries with less than 100k population each (0.5m)

Total population: ~167-168m

If we assume the avg. console/population ratio in these countries is a bit higher than half the ratio in Italy (low compared to UK, France, Germany etc.). Italy gives us 2.6m consoles/60m population = 4.33%. We choose a value a bit lower: 2.5%. That means the PS3 has sold 4.18m in those other European countries. Now, I'm not sure if the PS3 has launched in all of those countries so the actual number may be a bit lower, let's say 4m.

Middle East, Africa & Asia

Number of PS3s: 5m

Australia and NZ: 1.35m consoles

Total so far: 10.3-11.3m consoles. Let's pick the low end and say 10.3m

10.3/26.8 is still almost 40% of PS3 consoles. If we consider that GT5 is equally popular in all of EMEAA, that means those 2m in the report were only 60% of its EMEAA sales. What's 2m/0.60? 3.3million GT5 units sold - without bundles. The number may be a bit lower if countries such as UK have a slightly higher attach rate than average and so on so it may be only 3m without bundles. Bundles were easily 200k, so it's by no means overtracked.

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Edit/tl;dr: GT5 does not appear to be overtracked at all - in fact, the shipment numbers point to the exact opposite.

i really think you forgot 80 million turkish people. i don't think it's counted to middle east since it counts to europe politically and geographically as well for one part. i'm not really sure in germany we call i otherwise "near east" (makes sense from our position) and we don't count it nor does it the arabic world itself like this. in english the put turkey to it as the "traditional definition of the middle east" but not the politically. state departmend for example doesn't count it as middle east as well:

"In 1958, the State Department explained that the terms "Near East" and "Middle East" were interchangeable, and defined the region as including only Egypt, Syria, Israel, Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, and Qatar."

 

but i'm not sure how it's counted here.