pezus said:
Michael-5 said:
pezus said:
This isn't about CoD fans but rather new cod players. 2.5 million CoD sales vs. 900k BF3 sales and you think the average consumer actually remembers the outage by now?
Not surprising, considering you can get a $199 360 any time you want. It's nothing new for them to be selling 360s for less than the PS3, why do you act like it is?
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Yea, but Call of Duty sells on hype. if all the PS3 fans are switching systems, or complaining about delayed map packs and PSN Outage, then more of the the new buyers will buy the 360 bundle since XBL is becoming more associated with CoD.
and yes I still think the average consumer remembers the outage. My parents tried to convince me not to get a Sony phone because of the PSN outage. It's more then an outage, personal information and credit card information was stollen.
As for Arcade 360's, most 360 sales are of the 250GB, which is suppose to be retail $299. Arcade systems are lesser systems only makes sense they cost less, but I've seen Elite systems (is that what they are called now) sell for $230, where PS3 bundles are limited to $250 with all 3 Uncharteds in some places, but usually just the 3rd one.
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I don't know how you think PS3 fans are switching systems when the PS3 version is growing almost as much as the 360 version (relatively). Why would the Cod fans care about the outage and not the BF fans? The average cod fan is a more casual type of gamer, or rather, he knows little about gaming things that are not related to cod. I'd like to believe that the average BF fans is a bit less casual and more "into" the gaming industry, if you will.
Still, MW3 seeing growth over Black Ops on the PS3 does not point to any leakage of fans to the 360 because of the outage.
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Yea, but the tie ratio between retail sales and systems is growing much faster on 360 then it is for PS3.
As for CoD fans caring about the outage, of the people on this forum and real friends who are CoD nuts, many of them talk about paying the extra $$$$ and switching. If current console owners are thinking of selling their PS3 and going 360, I can only imagine what newcomers to Call of Duty are thinking.
Doesn't matter how causal of a gamer you are, that PSN outage was huge. My 60 year old dad completly boycotted Sony after that and he doesn't even play games. Credit card information was stollen man. Even now the Sony stock is the lowest it's been in decades (with respect to inflation).
MW3 selling much better on 360 then PS3, to a larger ratio then Black Ops, shows that although PS3 has been able to maintain the CoD fans on it's past (or offset those lost with new gamers), PS3 hasn't been able to grow the fanbase anywhere nearly as much as 360.