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I can't believe people are still arguing about DS and PS2. Really.

There is no solid sales data for PS2. ioi has openly admitted that it's undertracked here, simply because he doesn't know where the extra MILLIONS should be, and when.

Nintendo still haven't, to my knowing, said the DS has outsold the PS2 WW (Theyve touted the victory in America).

It's pretty obvious to 99% of people that the DS still hasn't outsold the PS2 just yet. Nintendo might have even killed all chances of that happening.