Is the PS3 a failure in America?(Compared to the PS2 &PS1)

[kain_kusanagi]

gamelover2000 said:

kain_kusanagi said:
I wouldn't consider the PS3 a failure, even compared to the PS2 and PSX. But I don't consider the Sega Saturn a failure either. I may be in the minority on that one, but it still has games on my top 10 list. I'm sure Sony is disappointed by the sales considering they spent so much they will probably never break even with the PS3. Sony keeps throwing money at the PS3 to create killer exclusives, but with the exception of GT5 they just don't sell. Resistance 3 should be a hit, but PS3 owners aren't buying it. Even Uncharted games don't sell incredible well, not bad, but not what Sony need to dig themselves out of the whole they are in.

It's not even Sony's fault really. They did everything they did with the PS2, but this time it didn't work. The market changed and they didn't see it coming.

But the good news is we may have finally seen the market settle. Back in the Atari days there were too many consoles and the market crashed. They Nintendo and Sega split the market 50/50 until the mid 90s when Sony gobbled the market up. By the turn of the century we lost Sega and gained MS. Now it looks like it's going to be a three way market for a long long time. I have a feeling that the next generation is going to be a fairly even split between Nintendo, MS and Sony. And that's a good thing.

 

I don't agree saying that PS3 exclusives don't sell. They have legs.

 

Uncharted 2 is nearing 5 million sold, Gran Turismo.. Doesn't need a mention, Resistance 1 sold alot

 

All of these games however, did not see even close to half of their sales in the first month. Gears and Halo do.

You're very much correct, if this topic was about global sales. But, this thread is about America. In the US Uncharted 2 has sold 2.51m. That's still very much a hit, but since you mentioned Halo look at Halo Reach's numbers in America. Reach is at 6.63m and it came out in 2010 while U2 was in 2009. Since you brought up Gears of War let's look at the whole series. In America Gears 1 sold 3.71m, Gears 2 sold 3.91m. So far Gears 3 has sold 2.15m just in the America, it's about to outsell Uncharted 2 in it's first few weeks in the Americas.

Resistance and Killzone series have yet to top 2m in the Americas unless you combine their sales and even then each series would be at 2.99m for Resistance 1,2,3 (R3 is still new so I'm sure it will break 1m) and 2.42m for Killzone 2,3. Let's combine Killzone and Resistance series sales into one big PS3 FPS sale total. The Combined total would be 5.41m. But let's through in and extra million for Resistance 3 for a total of 6.41m. Halo Reach by itself, in America, still outsells it with 6.63m.

Now lets move on to GT5. It has sold a whopping 6.52m total world wide. That's a ton, not as much as previous GT games, but that's a great number. However we are just talking about the Americas. GT5, in America, has sold 1.81m. Forza 3 has sold 2.81m in America. That's about 1m more than GT5. A lot of GT fans like to combine GT5p and GT5 sales, which I don't agree with, but anyway, combined it would be 2.91m in America. So GT5 only outsells Forza 3 in America if you combine it's sales with Prologue's sales, but even then it only outsells it by about 10,000, so it's a wash.

I actually hate playing numbers games. PS3 has fantastic games as well as the Xbox 360 and Wii. But I do find it interesting that PS3 games, in America, have a harder time than Xbox 360. It could be that in the Americas the Xbox 360 has outsold the PS3 by about 12m units. That's a lot so that might be it. It could also be that Xbox 360 owners are only gamers using it exclusively for games while some PS3 owners use it exclusively for Blu-Ray since at launch it was the cheapest Blu-Ray player. I don't know, but it's an interesting cultural topic since in Japan Sony dominates and In Europe it's a close race.

Like I said before. I think it's good that Sony and MS are on fairly equal terms even though in certain markets they may have their edge. It means next gen we will see a balance of power like we did during the golden age of Sega and Nintendo. Back then it didn't matter which system you had, they were almost their own markets and since they were battling over who had 51% of the market gamers on both sides had more games than they could play. It was a good time to be a gamer and right now it's a pretty damn good time to be a gamer as well.