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Player1x3 on 04 September 2011
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sapphi_snake said:
Joelcool7 said:


True and not true. Christians were being persecuted in around 200AD and wanted to celebrate Christs birth. So they decided to celebrate it at the same time as the pagan holiday. Though I must admit it wasn't a Christian holiday to begin with. Also Santa Clause is Christian, he was Saint Nicholus.

Everything we celebrate about at Christmas is because of Christianity. Also the twelve days thing, I think that was just a song. hanukkah is the holiday that lasts multiple days at Christmas time. Also the giving and recieving of presents was also a symbolic jesture and practice started by Christian's in celebrating Christmas.

Do you honestly believe we would still be celebrating the holiday of lights today if it weren't for Christian's? Its Christmas thats what it is. The reason it is celebrated is entirely based on the Christian faith.

That being said their is nothing wrong with everyone else celebrating it. As long as they don't try to impose their changes on its heritage and on those who still celebrate what it stands for. Also people should be educated as to why we have Santa and why Christmas is celebrated. Whether the real date of Jesus birth or not it still is symbolic of his birth!

You're actually wrong. Christians weren't being persecutted when they hijacked Christmas. It was starting with the 4th century did Christians start celebrating Christmas during the winter.

And it's funny how you talk about educating others, when you yourself are terribly uneducated regarding this issue. Most of the Christmas traditions we have today come from pegan festivals: the gift giving custom comes from the Roman Saturnalia (I actually can't believe you think Christians started this one), using lights and being charitable are coustoms adopted from the Roman New Year, and Christmas carols and the Christmas tree come from Scandinavian pagan traditions. There's actually little Christmas customs have to do with Christianity and Jesus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas#Pre-Christian_background

People would've definately celebrated something at Christmas time, considering that all over Europe there were festivals at that time, and people love holidays. Christmas doesn't need Christianity, and no longer uses it anyway.

And Santa Clause certainly isn't a religious figure. He was made popular by fiction books and Coca Cola.


That is silly, sappi, every country and culture have a different way of celebrating christmas, the english/american way isnt the only way. in serbia, for example we dont even celebrate christmas on december 25th but on january 7th, and we dont decorate the tree for christmas but for new year. there are tons other different traditions i just cant explain and name them all in english. the western way of celebrating christmas isnt the only way