Can PS3 still win this generation and outsell Wii?

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Phoeniks.Wright said:

@1/: Even so, the predominant industry view was that the Wii was nothing more than a fad that would soon die out, whilst the PS3 would soon hit it's stride with the arrival of a certain game. As you see, this never happened. Your view was the minority view, if not a very small minority.

yeah cause PS3 was gonna release in 2007 with a small price but HD-DVD made soNY start early and production shortages stunted PS3.

i never before talked about it so how can u talk about miniority view,i was talkign what people were saying in 2007 and 2008 not 2006.

@3/: The PS3 says hi. The utter dominance of the PS2 thanks to it's huge game library sure didn't helpthe PS3 in any way.

why will library help PS3?

brand name at that point of time does and it did.how the hell do you think PS3 even came through with such a big price.

What ninty is doing now is not right as the brand of Wii has been goin down since 2010 and till 2012 it will be 2 years which will hurt next console launch

@5/: "burn billions of dollars" means losing billions of dollars. Since it cost Sony so much to develop the technology in the PS3, and they were selling each console at a loss for a few years, they lost billions of dollars during that time. Sure, they established the Blu-ray as the HD format, but it would take a very long time to recuperate those losses if we used just royaltys.

no it won't.you should go back and check.

we ave been following the profits and losses from the start of the generation.All losses made by PS3 come to $6.5-7billion plus the R&D invested in the PS VITA and future PS4

which is cut down to around $2.5billion after PS2,PSP,PS3 HW and software sales.this loss is further reduced by BLU-RAY royalties which we don't know of.SONY is easily recouping the loss

@2/ and 6/: Business ecosystems aren't so much needed as just being here. They happen by definition automatically. ?Sure, they're shaped by customers and other company's, like distributors and fellow competitors, but ultimately, it is the customer that is king. He will decide what succeeds or not, and in the videogame industry it is the gamer.

as you can see with APPLE.consumers are jsut pickers of what technology to follow but the tech provided depends on company.

we are living in a digital world with intecommunicating devices,ecosystem is essential.

Another generation of gaming then Ninty will have problem which is why ninty should start think of it now

Brand maintenance is indeed important, and what is happening here is that Nintendo is destroying the Wii brand with the Wii U.

thats the problem that they are not actually destroying the Wii brand but WiiU is the same brand but a different console.Ninty's name changing console in the past was bad but this time they are overlaping

They are trying to present the Wii U as the successor to the Wii, but that's just a sick joke, since the Wii U is like a GameCube, or the anti-Wii.

thats what the problem with ninty is that they develop new things every few years,in the long term they should maintain one name and one strategy

Same for the 3DS: they tried to present it as a successor to the DS, but the brand revolves around 3D, and since people don't want 3D, they are rejecting the 3DS.

yeah cause the innovation was very less,3D has nothing to do with game development but your view.

about the Wii if WiiU launched this year then they would be going for a successor but the time in betweent he brand value is going down by the minute

Nintendo is an entertainment company, not a technology one. If you look at their 4 most succesful consoles, DS, GameBoy, Wii and NES, they were all technologically behind the times, even when they launched. Nintendo's only focus is to make entertaining games.

that time the software and hardware were totally different and the ecosystems didn't exist

nintendo's focus is game but they have to learn that today's world both HW and SW are coming together and if they want to be invested in the gaming buisness long term then they gotta make changes or go software only company in a few years time

Also, that whole idea of one device that does everything has been the computer industry's ( I believe it's them, or someone within, not too sure ) wet dream for years. It never happened. In fact, that was  the reason given as to why the NES wouldn't sell. History shows how wrong this line of thought was.

the world has changed

TV's didn't have processors back in the day,phones were just calling devices and handhelds were just gaming devices and internet connectivity wasn't there like todya's integrated streamline systems.

please get with the time