Rpruett said:
leo-j said:
Bosh wasn't interested in lebron to begin with.. he wanted to play with wade..
you say kobe right now is a better player than wade.. that's just nuts.. wade is prob the 2nd best player in the league.. and statisticly he was well ahead of kobe this season in nearly everything..
According to the Miami Heat fan. I'll assume there is some bias. You say Cleveland had scrubs around Lebron...Yet they were consistently deep in the playoffs and a top regular season team.
Wade had the Heat....where again?
lebron will have a legacy, don't even say he wont, he already has won, he may be hated right now, but once/if he wins a championship everyone will ride him again.. especially the media..
What legacy? A legacy where he wasn't good enough or patient enough or a big enough leader to further aid and develop his teammates and himself to build a dynasty? He will be looked at as a mercenary who had so much potential and couldn't achieve enough.
and the jordan ship hasn't sailed, lebron is 26, he isn't 29 like wade, wade's ship may have fled, but lebron still has the potential to grow as a player.. the fact he has mvp like stats this year with wade just shows how good he's become..
Lebron is a good player, so was Charles Barkley, Karl Malone, Dominique Wilkins (Who Lebron really reminds you of). Jordan he will never become. Sorry.
and lebron will never be a role player.. maybe at the end of his career like shaq was kind of.. but lebron is no role player, pippen does not compare to lebron.. why don't you go and call garnett and allen role players and hate on them.. they did the exact same thing lebron did, and they're praised constantly..
Garnett and Allen never had 1/100th the clout and league wide admiration and fan admiration that Lebron James did. They weren't close to as big of a player as him. Which again makes it more pathetic.
lebron just left cleveland and announced he did.. had he not announce it on tv, he probably would have still gotten hate for going to miami.. and the party was out of excitement, and the heat didn't really have much to do with it.. the city, the mayor, everyone in miami that were fans of the nba made that party for them.. and in a matter of hours the arena was full, it was a free party to see lebron in heat uniform along with bosh and wade..
Lebron held a several month countdown to his free agency, gave no firm answers or commitment to anybody, made teams put on shows for him to 'convince' him of where the King should go next. He made everyone 'travel to him'. He held an hour long televised special to announce one sentence. No player in any sport, regardless of their ego has ever done such a thing. Ever.
No one cares that he left Cleveland, or that Miami is happy they got him. It was the selfish, egotistical, self-absorbed manner in which he left. That no player has done before him.
now the "we're ganna win not 1 not 2 not 3 not 4 not 5 not 6 not 7 not 8 championships but more) was cocky and unneccessary, but everyone says that when they enter a new team.. "we're ganna bring a championship to X city", but yes it was cocky to say what he did, but people believed it, since he had wade, in his team.. the closest thing to jordan other than lebron and maybe kobe 2 years ago, at the time
Wade can't touch Jordan either. Give me a break. They aren't even comparable. Jordan won 3 Championships in a row. Retired. Then Won 3 more.
neither wade or lebron are "pippens" or "role players" they're both the stars of the team.. bosh as well.. role players are haslem and miller..
Lebron and Wade have resigned themselves to being Role players on that team. They will never be Jordan or Magic or Bird. They will be Pippens. Hall of Famers but not legends.
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he made up teams to put on a show for him.. and made people travel to him? Are you serious.. you realize every big name in the free agency was INVITED by the teams interested in them for a demonstration of the team's organization..
Nearly every city that could afford lebron wanted him, and they did not go to him, lebron went to them, they invited him, he could have said no, and he doesn't go to the demonstration.. this was fact, wade, bosh, amari, and many other free agents went through that same process..
and what if lebron wins 5 or 6 rings by the end of his career.. he wont be on jordan's league? Really? Considering YOU and probably half the entire nba base were probably touting him as the greatest thing on earth before he went to miami.. that's hypocriticle.. jordan said, he wouldn't have played with bird or magic on the same team, but times are different, he may have handled that decision differently than how it was in the 90s..
and you keep saying lebron and wade are role players.. do you know what a role player is..
ALLEN is not a role player
GARNETT is not a role player
PIERCE is definately not a role player..
what makes lebron or wade role players now.. when the team revolves around them.. they don't play a role in someone elses game..
role players are jermaine, shaq, maybe delonte on the celtics team, and the heat's role players are haslem, miller, maybe bibby, and maybe chalmers..
Well one other reason why he did what he did, was because he realized the amount of money he would have made doing "THE DECISION" on national tv.. he used his fame.. for what? Charity.. That is no excuse for what he did afterwards.. but no one was talking shit about lebron the day before he said south beach..
No one said Wade was jordan, but WADE LAST YEAR along with LEBRON were the CLOSEST THINGS to jordan.. key words.. "CLOSEST THINGS"
and pippen is a legend in the eyes of everyone.. that's the point of being a hall of famer..
and wade had no one 2008 and onward.. it's like playing the current heat bench with wade on the field.. you'd think they'd get into the ECF.. over the celtics..
lebron already has a legacy.. that is a fact.. he's a two time mvp.. he's an all star mvp.. he hass been in the all star team 7 straight times.. his stats/growth are uncomparable to anyone currently playing in the league.. he won the EC championship once maybe twice soon, there's no way he wont be remembered.. just how charles has a legacy.. or wilins does.. lebron does.. but lebron is a much better player than both of those players..
