Obama calls for Israel to restore 1967 boundaries

[vlad321]

badgenome said:

vlad321 said:

As I said earlier, none of these "beating back Arabs" would have happened had the jews not been handed land that wasn't theirs, nor had external help in defending it. The jews had no right to the land there, which is my whole point. I also agreed with what Kasz was saying about how the situation should be more or less handled now that everything is all sorts of fucked.

My main objection is that it wouldn't have gotten far if the Americans that Mexico willfully allowed in weren't there. This would go in another discussion however because this can be expanded into a big argument in itself.

Again, you are woefully, woefully wrong. This "handing land to the Jews" business (which was not at all like you make it sound) is an example of politics catching up to reality, namely that Palestine had a sizeable Jewish population. If the British were so determined to hand Palestine off to the Jews, they would have been encouraging Jewish immigration rather than trying to restrict it.

If Jewish immigration back to Palestine predates British rule and even Ottoman rule, then we are talking about a phenomenon that goes back at least to the 1200s. So your idea that Jews have no place there is simply fucking ludicrous.

Again, jsut because people move into an area and sit there, doesn't mean it's theirs. It does not give them claim to anything considering there are some who have been there for even longer that didn't leave. Then they were just handed the land they didn't deserve. Some of the modern palestinians date all the way from the original jews, who jsut happen to ahev assimilated with whoever it is that came in. Macedonians, Romans, Ottomans, etc. and they all have far more claim than the ones who were driven off, then decided to just come waltzing back.