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Rpruett on 12 May 2011
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LordTheNightKnight said:

"Having virtually no third party support whilst having no major first party titles anytime soon isn't a reason?"

1. It never had it even when it was thriving.

2. Anytime soon just means not for now.

"Nintendo is notoriously slow in their development cycles,  with no third party support you are witnessing the same effect that N64 and Gamecube ran into.   You don't think consumers take this is into account?"

Did you even read the OP? This thread is not about the sales decline. Also, Nintendo is not the only slow one, as a lot of major games on the other systems took way too long to make.

1.)   You're right it never has had it.  It's just always had the possibility or chance of having it in the future.  To anyone who owns a Wii now it's very obvious that it will never have good third party support.  It's worse now later in the generation to not have strong third party support than it is early in the generationm,  every company has already released their 'big hitter titles.   Waggling just isn't as cool as it was 4 years ago and every competitor has a waggle equivalent.  

2.)  Anytime soon means for quite some time and looking across the horizon, it doesn't seem like it's going to get much better.  There is a reason we're hearing rumblings of a new Nintendo console .   That's because their forecast ahead is looking more and more grim.

 

This thread isn't about the sales decline? I'm sorry then what the hell is this thread about?  From the OP : 

Some are declaring the Wii dead or dying. Not only does that ignore the sales are still respectable, it also pretends that solely because the new system is announced, that spells the end for this.

What we are saying is that the sales are not still respectable.  They are getting outsold by every competitor out there week after week.  (As the 'Market-Leader') even when their competitors have fallen flat on their face (Sony - PSN gaffe), (Microsoft - Very little compelling software currently).  The Wii has aged over-night into an 'old' console and that public perception isn't going to change.   I still believe the Wii will really sell well around the Holidays due to brand, name recognition and general popularity within the public but we might see PS3/360 both possibly over taking it in sales (Especially if we see a PS3 price drop like I anticipate).
Their internal projections are telling them it's time to make a new console because public interest is dying in the console.  That's why there is a lot of talk of a new console on the Nintendo side of the fence lately.