pizzahut451 said:
r505Matt said:
pizzahut451 said:
dib8rman said:
RCTjunkie said:
I find that on the internet forums, people are very respectful to different genders, races, and sexual orientations, but there is something about the belief in God that pushes some (certainly not all) people to become extremely bigoted, more generalizing, and overall more hateful and hostile to this specific group of people.
Take this random quote:
"I've noticed Christians are hypocrites."
What if we replaced "Christains" with another group:
"I've noticed African Americans are hypocrites."
It seems more hateful and politically incorrect, right? So why is it that people with a belief in God are seemingly excluded for the political corectness that help protects so many other groups?
I know certain groups of people were oppressed over time, but there should be a call for equality, not revenge......
Maybe I'm just too sensitive, but it just comes off that way to me......
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Starting today I'm going to start beliving in African American belief diety thing-a-mabob.. damn does that even make sense?
Last I checked a good chunk of African Americans were theists though so then can a theist still be a theist but also be atheist?
I know being a pinker pigment doesn't make you a theist or atheist though... why am I even bothering.
Sad OP is sad. World views are to be criticized and ridiculed when asserted to be correct without any evidence to the claim. In the theist case the very virtue of Christianity is the absence of evidence aka faith.
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And how is atheism any diffrent than Christianity when it comes to evidence and faith? Is there any evidence that supports non-existance of God? HELL NO. Atheist believe theire is no God based on no evidence. Christians beleive there is a God based on no evidence. So we should ridicule Atehism as well right? But, Richard Dawking forbiid than anyone thinks anything even remotly bad about your supeiror beleif. Stop acting like atheism is a proven beleif or something. its not even close to that.
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This is one of the more ridiculous things I've read in one of these kinds of discussions. Let's set this up simply (though it is probably falsely dichotomous). If there is no God, there cannot be evidence for either side of the debate. It would be impossible to find evidence supporting or disproving the existence of God. You cannot prove or disprove something that does not exist.Are you saying that when something doesnt exist, you cant prove that it doesnt exist?
However, if there is a God, then there could be evidence to prove the existence of God, but there will still be no evidence to disprove God's existence. In both cases, you cannot have evidence to disprove something, it is logically impossible, therefore the burden of proof falls on believers, not atheists.Actually, existing God would NEVER give evidence to people about his existance.He would never allow humans to find evidence of him (considering thats actually possible) That would chnage the very foundation of life on Earth. That would ruin freedom of choice and will God gave to people and lots of other very important elements of human life. It would also destory the concept of faith and like I said, it all comes down to faith.
Now again, this is assuming a dichotomy when that's not really the case, so I think it's better to say whether or not there is a higher power or not. Since God and other possible celestial beings can be classified as a higher power, that wording probably works better.
Lastly, it can be difficult to discern what is actually evidence and what is merely just a 'red herring' in the end. Maybe there is some true evidence in the Bible or Koran or other religious work that truly points to a higher power but we will probably never know (in life that is).
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Are you saying that when something doesnt exist, you cant prove that it doesnt exist? So why even assume it doesnt exist?
Actually, existing God would NEVER give evidence to people about his existance.He would never allow humans to find evidence of him (considering thats actually possible) That would chnage the very foundation of life on Earth. That would ruin freedom of choice and will God gave to people and lots of other very important elements of human life. It would also destory the concept of faith and like I said, it all comes down to faith.So there could be God but there still coudlnt be any evidence of him, because he wouldnt allow it to be.
The rest of the post I agree with you
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What do you mean God would never give evidence to people about his existence? Are you a Christian? I mean, according to the Bible God himself sent his only son into human form to save humanity. What do you mean no evidence?
And if you are a Christian you should know that, according to the Christian Church, faith is destroyed either ways once you die, no matter if you are a Christian or not, because God reveals himself to you. There's no more faith there once you see that in what you blindly believed. What remains is the hope that you will once reach Heaven after you cleanse yourself from sin (unless of course you chose to reject God when he revealed himself and asked if you wanted him forever in your life, in which case you will be going to hell, which is NOT a place, but an eternal state of suffering of the soul caused by your own choice of rejecting God and he granting your wish)
Either ways, I don't believe in that. I was raised a Christian, but made my own choices. But if you say you are a Christian, I still cannot believe you deny God would give evidence of his existence, since Jesus was sent not only to save us, but to reveal many Misteries, including the Holy Trinity.
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