yo_john117 said:
Michael-5 said:
Carl2291 said:
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Sucks, but then again Forza 3 will break 5 million sales soon, and if Forza 4 does better that just gives GT more competition. More competition, means better quality for both games.
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There is a difference between being successful, and bundling your way to success.
Forza, while it has "sold" extremely well, has had a huge portion of its sales from bundles. The same happened with Forza 2, which is overtracked here by 500k btw.
Forza 3 had close to 1.5 Million units moved with the official bundle last Year. It had an official Holiday bundle in 2009 too, although it's hard to say how many sales came from that one.
It's not exactly competition if you need to bundle it like crazy to just come close the Prologue to GT5.
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I know Forza 2 is largely bundled, but Forza 3 sold most of its copies on it's own. I know before the Forza/Alan Wake bundle, Forza 3 sold about 3.3 million units on it's own accord. When the bundle ended it was at 4.67 million. The week the Ultimate Edition released, Forza 3 weekly sales jumped, and even before that the game was selling 10-20k weekly. I think at the very most 1 million of Forza 3's sales are bundled. So when the game does break 5 million, I think it's fair to say the game sold 4 million on it's own accord. If GT5 sells 9 million lifetime, thats almost half the volume.
That to me counts as competition. Camero's only sell a 5th as well as Mustangs, but they are still rivals are they not? Had Chevy not introduced the 300hp V6 and 400hp V8, would Ford have done it on their own? Maybe, but not as fast.
BTW Prologue sales for GT5 were bundled too, so :P.
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You forgot about the ODST/Forza 3 official bundle. So in all honesty 1.5 million sounds about right for how much its been bundled.
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Maybe, but I think 1 million and 500k are absolute max posiibilities for the Alan Wake and ODST bundles respectively. Even then, the game could hit 5.5 million lifetime, and thus 4 million are of its own accord. :P
