Innovation in software is the source of Nintendo's decline

[MaxwellGT2000]

psrock said:

MaxwellGT2000 said:

psrock said:

And there you have it, it's debatable to you not to many others, hell I've been playing most of these Nintendo series since I was barely old enough to hold an NES controller and well flat out Nintendo was off their game during the Gamecube era, they made some of the worst choices they ever have.  The Wii/DS they've been knocking it out of the park time and time again, New Super Mario Bros Wii is the best 2D Mario since the SNES days and for me since Super Mario Bros 3, Mario Kart for DS stomps the crap out of the entire series and Mario Kart Wii is right behind it, I'm certain Rol here would probably say the Wii version is better than the DS version.  

Melee was a step in the wrong direction for Smash even then between it and Double Dash that was all that kept Gamecube going, but they came out with Brawl taking out the glitches tournament players abused the hell out of, added in online, and then gave people what they wanted and more with content out the wazoo. Donkey Kong Country Returns is the only good Donkey Kong game to come out since the SNES and even then it's better than those SNES titles.  

Honestly to believe Nintendo has not been on top of their game this gen is basically believing the hype of the snooty internet reviewer, website, or "hardcore" forum poster.  It's utter rubbish and they didn't get to the top of the pile with hope and luck alone or brought back in many of their old fans while making games for the new crowds... I'm not saying they didn't "slip up" at any time, far from that, but that's like saying the SNES/N64 (the two consoles the "hardcore swear by) had hit after hit every month IE it didn't, people just like to look into the past with rose tinted glasses.

Fair point, I did not realize the Gamecube games were regarded as a step back until now. I swore back then no other console had a better fisrt party lineup then Nintendo.  

Well you're assuming last gen wasn't pretty stagnated (it was) Nintendo still made some of the best games that gen, but they didn't have much to compete with either, Sony had Jak, R&C, and their staple GT, Xbox had Halo and a bunch of PC ports that weren't the most amazing things around, third parties stepped it up last gen, even then... if you ask me it was the worst gen ever lol lots of pushes for yearly titles, hell it pushed Sony into making their brand NBS the Inside and MLB the Show, and pushed Nintendo to embarrass themselves with their own yearly sports titles.  

Last gen was either a lot of the same of the PS1/N64 era, or was a decent number of niche titles that sold like niche titles, there was a reason I mainly gamed on my PC last gen I was catching up on a few years of PC gaming I had missed since nothing amazing was going on in the console front haha PS2 got a lot of third party love and the people that love those third party titles loved last gen and loved the PS2, but it's also the reason you see more spread on million sellers than you do with previous gens and current gens.