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Linkzmax said:

On ABC: The robo thing is making him far more understandable now. It's made me do another read over his posts. I find myself thinking that everytime he seems to clear up things and get suspicion off of him, he goes and says something else that makes me think "HUH!? That makes no sense" and thus I'm back to being a bit suspicious of him. But that makes me wonder if a mafiosi would continue to blunder along like that, or would've been sure to be more careful/take a step out of the limelight for a while. That's making me think he's townie, but still those "HUH" posts linger on my mind as well as noname's timeline thing and the one post I've noticed.

Final-Fan said:

Honestly, my opinion at this point is that it was more likely one of those "too scummy to actually be scum" situations.  But I could be wrong; and I don't know what else I could say to convince you (or anyone, really) that no, your suspicions are totally valid, it's just that his behavior went so far beyond suspicious that surely nobody actually guilty would be so incautious as to say those things

In last game's dead thread, I posted that the surviving townies (yourself included) could have caught nen if you guys had taken a step back and stopped overthinking everything. Judging by these posts, you're doing the same thing here: rather than going with what you apparently believe, you're creating a fictional framework of how scum Would Act in a situation, and then checking to see if the observed behavior matches this fictional framework. 

I'm not urging you to vote for ABC at this moment, but I am telling you that playing mindgames with yourself is a fantastic way for a townie to lose.

Wonktonodi said:

It is also helpful for townies to see who thinks like them as well. 

Why?  What benefit does a townie get from this if they're not actively lobbying for votes?

Hephaestos said:

okay, well...

1) ABC well i do have the feeling that he's better for later...His playstyle is also now changed. There seemed to have been way too much miscommunication early on for this to just be misscommunication though... so i'll keep my fos till we see more info tomorow. Wasn't there an alphabet killer?.... or was that something I saw in a movie/series...

2) Radish... well I saw that ABC pointed out my thought already... the argument looked fake, especially based on the smileyface and the radish defence. That and the illogicity of wonk's arguments against radish. He must have known that he would be rushing into a wall. I believe a Wonk lynch today is the most usefull information we could get. If he's mafia then we a radish lynch would be interesting too. If not, then radish has no dirt on him 'yet'. It'd be a shame though to lynch wonk on day one...he barely blossomed.

Vote: Wonk

3) trash, I thought her vote on ABC to be a bit flumsy... not much else to say though. First time I play with her, but she kept cool with the jokevotes so little info gained there.

What do you mean by "and the radish defense"?  Also, why do you think trash's vote is flimsy?

Final-Fan said:

Well, there is one specific thing I want to add:  I think it's less likely ABC lied about his reasoning than that he just didn't remember and made up a reason that seemed to make sense, even though, as you point out, it doesn't. 

Isn't your motto usually "lynch all liars," though?

Stefl1504 said:


I haven't read to the end of the posts yet, but I thought that I needed to reply to this.

I said that we should not focus ont ABC, I was not trying to stop asking him questions, but like you side, get people also to look at others than him, while he is likely to be scum, I still think there are other players out there that haven't gotten any attention yet (as far as I read now). Why I said that we should wait for trangent... yeah, I was hoping he really has some clues for us.

Very well, but now that that's ended I'd like to hear your thoughts and suspicions, since you've been unusually quiet this game.