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This thread reminds me of the Nibris/Sadness thread that was on here months ago. I kept trying to tell people that the people behind Nibris were full of sh*t and I presented proof to back it up and still people didn't want to believe it. Now I presented proof (previous sales in the series, GTA is simply a bigger series period) and still people don't want to believe.

If this had been the opposite situation and it was SSBM that had  sold 17+ million and GTA: San Andreas at 6.58 million combined sales the Nintendo fanboys would be laughing their asses of at anyone claiming GTAIV was going to outsell SSBB. 

As I've said before it's the casuals that are responsible for the Wii's success and a hardcore game like this isn't going to be the type of game that grandmas, soccer moms, or any of the other casuals will picked up.

Anyways after the first 3 months when Grand Theft Auto IV has set records and it becomes very obvious that SSBB will never catch up to it I'm going to bring up this thread and rub it in to everyone that refused to look at the numbers and be realistic.