Gears 2 passes Gears 1 Party time!

[Michael-5]

snakenobi said:

Michael-5 said:

Ah exams, I had those in the past too. K I'll trim.

-You shouldn't expect Agent to be a mega blockbuster title selling over 5 million. It may do that, it may not. Only PS3 exclusives selling over 5 million units are old established franchises, and RockStar doesn't have a history of making a new IP selling over 3 million, exclusive or not.

-Rockstar can break contracts, all they would lose with Sony is some $$$. Capcom signed a contract with Nintendo to produce 5 new exclusive games for the GCN, and only delivered on two. RE4 later was released on the PS2 anyway despite being an "exclusive GCN title." Rockstar also signed a contract for GTA IV Episodes to be exclusive for 50 million, and found a way around that. Agent may go multiplatform, but thats besides the point. I'm only trying to show you thats it's unreasonable to expect the game to sell 5 million as a PS3 exclusive, when no gameplay footage has even been shown about this game.

-If Agent sold 5 million or more units, it would be PS3's best selling exclusive game for 2011, above Uncharted 3, LBP2, Killzone 3, and others. For 2011, Uncharted 3 is PS3's Star Performer, and I don't see Agent selling more then that, which will be around 5 million.

-Last Point, Gears was delayed from April-Fall, but it still added 8k pre-orders this week, 2/3rd of Killzone 3, and 7th most overall. Game is going to be epic.

There, shorter.

selling over 5m is not that big of a deal this generation plus selling 5m doesn't make it a mega blockbuster.

Gears and Assasins sold over 5m but they cannot be considered with COD,GT,HALO,FF.

rockstar can break contracts but would they want to?i don't think so looking back at the relationship

Rockstar signed 50m GTA episodes contract but that contract was only for timed exclusively not full exclusivity plus the final figure was around $75m that MS paid to bring GTA and EPISODES to 360.

gears pre-orders are big and it is going to be epic but the pre-orders tally isn't correct.

AGENT will surely trump 5m if released this holiday

5 million is a big deal on the PS3, especially outside the CoD/GTA empire.

Assassin's Creed on the 360 sold 5 million, and that franchise, like LBP and Gears of War established itself early in the generation. None of the exclusive new IP's from 2009 onward have been successful on both the PS3 and 360. e.g. InFamous, Heavy Rain, Alan Wake, Mod Nation Racers, etc.

To be honest, I dunno the details for the contract Agent is under. Is it even under contract? FFXIII was only planned as an exclusive, and then went multiplatform. Still although it's almost certain Agent will remain a PS3 exclusive, if Rockstar market this and make it big, I can't picture it staying exclusive. Even PS2 GTA's went multiplat with the much less successful Xbox 1.

As for the contract for GTA Episodes, no one knew it was limited to a timed release until after both DLC were released on the 360 for a good period of time.

Gears Pre-order total count is over inflated due to it's April release, but it's weekly gains are not inflated, and it's still getting 2/3rds the pre-orders of Killzone 3, and is still 7th overall in weekly pre-order changes.

In the end, I disagree with your opinion, but that's my opinion. I respect yours, and although I disagree, I'll accept your view as your own. It's no more correct then mine is, it's just an opinion. Wow thats confusing lol

Good debate.