Gears 2 passes Gears 1 Party time!

[Michael-5]

snakenobi said:

Michael-5 said:

Well first of all, Gears 1 and 2 sold 6 million, and a lot of people believe both could have sold better if they had been polished more. Gears 1 multiplayer was added very late into development and almost not included, and thus it was pretty glitchy, and Gears 2 had substantial multiplayer issues. Gears of War 3 has a 3 year development time instead of 2 years, so it may be the polishs Gears fans have always wanted.

So Gears 3 should sell at least 6 million, probably more.

Thats a lot! GTA IV only sold 8.37 million and 7.15 million copes on the 360 and PS3 respectively. Agent is exclusive, but GTA is what the Rockstar Empire is based on. Agent will not be as big as GTA, not even close, simple as that. Red Dead Redemption was a huge commercial success and combined it only sold 7 million. As a single console exclusive, even if it's as successful as Red Dead, I just can't see it selling more then 4 million units.

Not all of Rockstars games are massive sellers you know? L.A. Noire probably won't sell much more then 1 million on the 360 or PS3. Max Payne on the PS2 only just broke 3 million, and I think thats going to be bigger then Agent, only 1 Midnight Club title broke 2 million, Bully only just broke 1 million on the 360, and Red Dead Revolver only sold 500k.

Sorry bud, but I don't know why your putting Agent so high up as a software seller. Uncharted 3 is probably going to be PS3's best seller of 2011, and realistically, even though this might be the best selling Uncharted, it's going to fall short of Gears of War sales.

"a lot of people believe both could have sold better if they had been polished more."

whattttttttttttttttttttttttt

that can be said with every game but quality doesn't equal sales and gears of war is one of the most polished franchise.

every thing can be improved.

gears multiplayers was alrite,the glitches were there but players got the full experience

 

its not like you spend more time and gears will outsell halo(just an example to show sales just don't spike just like that)

i agree and believe it too that gears will sell 6m copies or more.i'm not against it as i know it will sell that well.

 

gta 4 sold less as it was released in the infancy of the generation and it wasn't like the PS2 era when consoles were cheap and people would just go and pickup a console for a game cause they were so cheap.PS3 was out of bounds for alot of GTA fans that time and 360 too had a high price plus XBOX brand was small that time.

Still that game broke records

 

Rockstar empire is based on GTA but they have produced many big games and sony did pick out GTA when it blew onto the PS2 scene.

Red Dead was a new franchise,had bad publicity cause of delays,had an unknown prequel red dead revolver and was nowhere near advertised as big games are

AGENT looks interesting just by its logo and its description,plus its exclusive which draws alot of attention and will be showcased at E3 for exposure big time and alot of advertising.

it will do 4m easily,no doubt atall.

and if it turns out to be GTA ENgland then you already know what is going to be the outcome

 

people said the same about RED DEAD as you are saying about LA NOIRE.

MAX PAYNE did 3m but that was a good figure that time for games as there were so many games and not all games sold big numbers the way they are doing this generation

 

if AGENT lands Uncharted will not be the highest PS3 seller for sure.

Rockstar isn't just giving sony the exlcusive just like that,they want good sales and they would expect AGENT to marketed the hell out and promoted as the main thing on PS3 this year.

When I say "If Gears were more polished" I mean if they had more time for testing and removed glitches. In Gears 1 Host has a clear advantage, and people "crab walk" all time time. You could also leave the map via some glitches so some games just never ended. In Gears 2 host has a smaller advantage, but it's still there, and crab walking and leaving maps is still a problem. The only big difference is that ranked matches were now made in random rooms so there was no team stacking.

Gears of War 2 could have easily broken 7 million if they incorporated host-migration. Too many games have dropped because the host quit, and host migration was present in games like CoD and Halo for a long time before this games.

As for Red Dead, considering that it runs off the GTA Engine (Havok engine right?), I knew it would do well from the start. I'm not a fan of westerns, but I knew this game would at least get 5 million combined.

As for Agent, I don't think there is any chance this game will sell 6 million or more units. All thats out so far is a title and a description. Remember, other then Gran Turismo 5, the only PS3 exclusive to break 5 million is MGS4, and it only just passed 5 million now.

Agent could do 4 million, a lot of quality PS3 games are getting 4 million now (Uncharted 2, LBP, and FF XIII), but anything above that, on the PS3, don't think so. Software just doesn't sell that well on the PS3, the audience is too diverse.

And I think your giving this game too much credit. The star game of PS3's lineup is Uncharted 3. Agent may be awesome, but an unknow title from Rockstar won't just come in and outsell Sony's star performer. Also I can't picture Rockstar making Agent their best game after GTA. I think it will be more of a niche game.

As for L.A. Noire, I really doubt either console version will get over 3 million. Look at the American Pre-Orders, they are low, and the game is suppose to be like Heavy Rain, which only sold 1.5 million.

Still your entitled to your opinion, so I can't say your wrong. It's opinion. We won't know who is right until at earliest 2012.

BTW, I think Gears 3 has a shot for 7 million. What do you think?