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toastboy44562 said:
homer said:
toastboy44562 said:



Im sure he added debt in the beginning, but we were on the track to make some serious money. Bush recommended to go to iraq, at the a lot of the congress was his buddies. So he could basically do whatever he wanted within reason. He could have controlled how many jobs went overseas by trying to enforce different tarifs and being more liberal and trying to get other countries to trade with us more. I dont know about the rest personally you could be right.


Overall during his presidency, he did add to the deficit though, or am I mistaken? Clinton took us to Somalia, and left abruptly throwing that country into chaos, if I am not mistaken. Why doesn't Obama do the things you speak of? Then we could stop the loss of more jobs, and perhaps court other former American factories to come back.

homer said:
toastboy44562 said:
homer saidin Clinton's presidency, didn't we? If I am not mistaken, he added debt to the deficit, just not as much as Bush. So, the president has the ability to declare war, without congress's consent? I did not know that. It was Bush's fault that China managed to get many American jobs? I just thought we could not compete with China considering they can manage to pay their workers less, but I guess I am mistaken, or am I? If he cheated on his wife, I will think a lot less of him. Also, didn't he commit purgury(lying in court if I am not mistaken)? Why did he lie? Also, didn't he leave Somalia in a mess after a quick occupation/invasion? Clinton killed many innocent somalians and americans? Didn't he also give nuclear material to North Korea, or am I mistaken? Does that seem like a wise idea, because it didn't seem to wise to me.

i'm not quite sure about the deficit part. And it's not that simple, when clinton got into office mostly all the jobs were in us and we wern't in nearly as much debt

Was that Clinton's doing? Did Clinton try to insure that those jobs stayed in the USA? What did Clinton do that made him so good? Was he just president during a good time of American history, making him look like he was better than he truly was?


Im sure part of it was. But the fact that he didn't screw up is what matters.


So, theoretically, if I was the president of the USA, during a golden age, and did absolutely nothing, but the country prospered anyways, would that make me a great? What if I became a president during a depression, but managed to make the USA better? Which president would you consider better? One man changed america for the better, while the other did nothing, but inherited a prosperous nation. The people had a better time under my presidancy,although I did nothing. Neither screwed up, is that what truly matters?



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