*Can 360 or PS3 get a 20 Million seller?*

[*Sound Of Rain]

Baalzamon said:

*Sound Of Rain said:

I was just thinking will the 360 or PS3 ever be able to make a game reach the 20 Million mark? The Wii obviously has a bigger userbase(Many people on here tell me that userbase doesn't matter though but I personally think it does) but now has 4 20 Million sellers! I don't count Wii Sports or Resort as they were both bundled(though W.S.R would have made it either way) but Wii Play__Mario Kart Wii__Wii Fit__and New Super Mario Bros. Wii have all sold over 20 Million now. 

Can 360 or PS3 get at least 1 20 Million seller? As of now the highest selling game on both systems is Modern Warfare 2 with 12 Million on the 360 and about 9 Million on PS3. 

The PS3 hasn't even had a 10 Million seller as of yet so I think its unlikely that PS3 will ever have a 20 Million seller but it could happen in the future with an unannounced game as I don't think Gran Turismo 5 or Sports Champions can reach that mark...They may struggle to reach 10 Million if at all. Also, The PS and PS2 are the top 2 selling Home systems of all time and both failed to see a 20 Million seller.

Next, the 360...as of now I don't see any announced game reaching 20 Million either though Kinect Adventures has a chance if it has the "legs" to do so. The closest thing I can compare Kinect to is Wii Fit which Kinect Adventures is currently selling faster than Wii Fit...but Wii Fit was still selling over 100K a week in America alone after 1 year of release.  Could Kinect Adventures become Microsoft's Wii Fit? As of now it seems possible but I still have my doubts it can last especially without Japan since Wii Fit wouldn't have sold 20 Million if it had failed in Japan.

Anyway above is just my opinions but do you think the 360, PS3, or both could ever see a 20 Million seller?

My only problem with considering Kinect Adventures is your reasoning for why you can't count Wii Sports or Wii Sports Resort.  You say that because they are bundled, they don't really count.  So my question to you is how many people really would have bought Kinect Adventures if it wasn't bundled with Kinect.  It looks like a cool game to me, but a 20 million seller...I'm not so sure of that.

I didn't want to make the O.P too long because nobody would bother to read it but I was going to explain that but I figured I would when somebody brought it up so you did so here it goes Lol.

Everybody has their own opinions about what to count and what not to count but my personal reason for not counting Wii Sports or Resort is the simple fact that for an extensive period of time if you bought any kind of Wii you HAD to get W.S and W.S.R with it...their was NO way around it. All Wii's and Wii bundles included the game W.S and W.S.R.

Now, I count Mario Kart Wii and NSMBW even though it was bundled due to the fact that you didn't HAVE  to buy a Wii that included those games...The Red Wii(in Mario Karts case Black Wii) was not the only Wii available so not all customers had to get the game if they wanted it or not like as with W.S and W.S.R. 

I also, count both Wii Fit and Wii Play even though some people(Most in Wii Play's case) could have purchased the game just for the thing that came with it. There is no way to really prove that 90% of Wii Play owners got it for the Wii Remote and even if there was I would still count it due to it not being bundled with the system itself. Yes, it was bundled but it wasn't forced it was used to attract people into buying Wii Play and it worked.

Now, for Kinect Adventures...I count it for the same reason I count Wii Fit and Wii Play. Though it comes with Kinect it doesn't always come with the system itself. Many people may buy K.A only for Kinect but Kinect is an add on for the 360 and is not its own system. As for it being bundled with a 360...yes you can buy the 360/Kinect bundle but you don't have to buy it...people may only want the 360 and buy one without Kinect just like the NSMBW Red bundle.

Now if Microsoft starts selling EVERY 360 with a Kinect then K.A would no longer count personally for me even if it had 19.9 Million sales before it was bundled with every 360. Nobody can 100% guarantee that it would have sold those final 100K.