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Barozi said:
Scoobes said:
twesterm said:


There's a HUGE difference between publishing and developing.  FFXIV was a massive mess, should I expect FFXV to be an unfinished mess when it's released?

As for Bethesda, every game has bugs.  Some games have more bugs than others, what's important is that those bugs don't completely break the experience and there aren't a lot of them.  I found my faire share of bugs in Oblivion and a few in Fallout 3, but they were either incredibly minor or incredibly rare so I wasn't really upset.  Like I said, every game has bugs.  If you wanted the thread to be about games Bethesda made, you should have stopped at Fallout 3.

Obsidian, the developers of New Vegas, on the other hand, they're games have lots of bugs and bad bugs.  I haven't played New Vegas but I have played NWN2 and KotoR 2 and, well, I'm not surprised about New Vegas.  I had to stop playing both of those games because I encountered game breaking bugs that I could do nothing to get around.

Oh, and lol, Alpha Protocol

I agree that Obsidian seem to have a habit of releasing buggy games, but I honestly think Alpha Protocol is one of the most underrated games of the gen. I got it for £5 on the Steam sale yet I kept thinking to myself, "I'd have paid full price for this!". Plus, I rarely encountered bugs (although their were a few, particularly near the end).

I paid 20€ for it and it was 18€ too much.

incredibly mediocre game.

Stealth system is bad, third person shooting is horrible, skills are boring, levels are uninspiring, extreme texture loading problems (even for an UE3 game), it's short

On the plus side, story is relatively good and so are the conversations.

That's actually more what appealed to me. I didn't think the shooting and stealth mechanics were that bad. I went back and played Mass Effect 1 and I find the mechanics for shooting in AP to be superior in nearly every way, yet Mass Effect 1 seems to get a free ride in that respect. In fact, nearly all of your complaints could also be applied to ME1, yet it reviewed fairly well.

Btw, did you play on PC or 360?

I have no idea how good or bad it played on console so maybe the problems were more apparent on the console version.