GTFO GfWL !!!!

[Scoobes]

Mr Puggsly said:

Well I'll explain since you can't seem to do the math yourself.

When was the last time MS published a PC game? 2007 I believe.

This in itself is a problem. How are PC gamers meant to take MS seriously if everything points towards them completely disregarding PC.?

People would pay for GFWL if MS offered strong online games. Unfortunately, they don't offer much so charging for online play on the PC was hardly justified.

If MS ever charges for online play on the PC again I just hope they can justify it by offering strong exclusive games that require Live.

No they wouldn't. This is the PC space we're talking about where playing online has been free for over 15 years. Look at all the competition from Valve alone Counterstrike Source, Left 4 Dead 1 & 2, Team Fortress 2, Day of Defeat. Even Call of Duty now requires Steam.How exactly are MS going to compete with that?

MS tried to offer strong online games in Halo 2 and Shadowrun. Unfortunately, they don't seem to take the PC seriously and failed miserably. They continue to be in two minds about what to do in the PC space.

Your logic is all wrong. Valve didn't steal anything, developers went to Steam because the masses use Steam. Just recently MS decided to get GFW off the ground by adding a ton of games, deals of the week, the occasional daily deal, etc. As you can its creating a lot of buzz.

Steam gained customer because it's a good service. Everything MS are doing are short-term solutions to a long term problem. There's a lot more they need to do. The buzz generated so far is minimal at best.

Also, you must admit MS did something really smart over the years. They got developers to make GFW a requirement for several popular games. Some of those being popular titles on Steam. A brilliant way to make GFW relevant even for people who use other download services.

Actually, this has had a negative PR effect. Yes it forced gamers to use the service, but at a time when the service was very poor (it still is to be honest) which creates resentment for being forced to use the service. This was doubly so for Steam users as it added an extra layer of hassle to an otherwise simple and streamlined process if Steam was used alone.