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The Xbox Man said:
PullusPardus said:
The Xbox Man said:

PullusPardus said:

you should play the older games before saying that.

they're very shallow, being stereotypical whiny and "Headstrong woman" like you said is very very shallow, they don't develop at all, hope whines from the start of the game till the moment i left it, and Vanille is just "O HAI!" the whole time , and fang for some reason cares way too much about her (i mean Way way too much, as if she was her daughter or something, but in reality they barely met) , and Lightning is always "i shall finish this..even if costs me my (something) " , and to be honest i don't really know what they actually want from all this "Focus" thing, and how amazingly cliche every villian turn out to be.... well to be honest i can write about this all day, but it still doesn't change the fact that it was messy storyline with uninteresting everything.

also i remember you mentioning this being your first RPG , well damn you picked the worst game to start with this amazing genre.

I have played the older games, just after I played FF13. If the older games are "so much better" it shouldn't matter if I played them before or after FF13, and no FYI I didn't find them so much better and VIII I found terrible. And your post is ridiculous, how far into the game did you get? Vanille is "Oh ha" all the time? Did you even get to chapter 6 in the game when Vanille stops being chirpy after a "truth" is revealed. Lightning and Hope both develop a lot from Chapter 5 to Chapter 9, if Hope is still whiny where you left the game I doubt your that far in. Fang and Vanille haven't known eachother? Lets just ignore their time spent together on Pulse. And "focus" thing, none of them  know their real focus in the first place, how will they know what they want, its obvious you never got the the point where their focus is revealed? Two of them decide to run away (sazh/vanille), 2 of them decide to go to the centre of things and attack (Lightning/Hope). There were differing opinions. And I still say the characters are no less interesting than characters in the older games. This wasn't my first RPG, I am a WRPG veteran, and this "worst game" will always be one of my favourites in the JRPG genre. Whats clear is you simply haven't played much of the game and have no idea about the story, not only me but others pointed this out too.

even after revealing that she is the cause of that little kid Dajh's becoming what he became, she was still very annoying,

Lightning is always "Target's a target" , she never develop besides being a "Badass" and always going headfirst, shes the most uninteresting character out of the bunch a lot like Squall and Cloud in FFVIII and FFVII , but a lot less annoying than Squall..... a lot

even when hope (and after long 15 hours of being annoying) loses his interest of blaming snow he still is on the "FUCK MY LIFE!" motto , only now after he talks to lightning about his motives (in that really boring bridge-like level in chapter 5 i think?) he is actually into a "FUCK MY LIFE BJUT I WANT TO BE MY OWN LEADER!"

Vanille and Fang both lived in the same world, but there is no connection whatsoever and the writters seem to just be "Lulz lets just have these two be like lesbians and have them get seperated!" Fang loves Vanille way too much but she suddenly have the urge to get seperated oh and not to mention this scene , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyDOQgMvYCY  its as if the writers suddenly decided they want those two to be comic relief characters now that they don't know what to do with them.

Also the part where you mentioned Sazh and Vanille "Running away" was very hilariously bad, when she revealed that shes the one who did turn his kid into an LCie , he suddenly decide " well damn gurl! i just go an shoot ma self now to end all diz bullshit!" , i was"WTF ?!" why would he suddenly want to do that instead of saving his son? not to mention that actually happens right after he tells her "You think you die and everything will be back to NORMAL!?!?" when she tells him to "shoot me!"

Fang & Vanille did live together. If you actually got to pulse you'd visit their village and their home, they used to stay together in one town, they were like family. You once again show lack of knowledge of the game.

I don't see how Vanille was annoying after that, she didn't speak that much. She is no more annoying than Rikku for example. Sazh tries to kill himself because in case you didn't notice his son had turned into a crystal, an eternal state, Sazh never thought he could save his son after that, his son wasn't really there to save anymore, thats why he wants to kill himself as there was nothing worth living for, he was having a nervous breakdown. Your Hope bit doesn't make any sense to me, you have the order of events wrong, the bridge level is before he loses interest in killing snow.


@bolded . read the bolded

at rest, Vanille doesn't ... speak that much? shes the one narrating everything, why would sazh kill himself if he knew that Serah is also a crystal and that they're all trying to save serah? 

i've never said the bridge level is after he loses intrest in killing snow.