nightsurge said:
OntheEdgeofthemirror said:
nightsurge said:
OntheEdgeofthemirror said:
heruamon said:
OntheEdgeofthemirror said:
heruamon said:
OntheEdgeofthemirror said:
One thing always bothers me when MS or any major company releases sold to consumer numbers, how the hell do they know exactly how much every single retailer has sold world wide, bottom line they don't they are either guessing or releasing shipped numbers when it's close to being sold out because they can get away with it
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It's not that hard, if you REALLY want to get the number, which I'm sure M$ wanted. They upped their estimates, so they probably notified retailer to report all sales to them...why would it be difficult? Walmart, for example, tracks EVERYTHING...which is why they were so good. Now, if M$ wanted numbers for everything they sell, retialer might have a gripe with that...but notice that they report OVER 2.5, which accounts for the variance...
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because kinect ships to 60,000 retailers in like 300 countries thats why it's difficult, it's not 10 phones calls, and I'm sure not all of them disclose their numbers
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If you started, WITH the intent to track sales, it's not that hard of a problem, but why would you...evidently, M$ wanted to be able to do so. They don't need to track every sale, just the major batches from major retailers, since they aren't telling you, 2,524,234 kinect units sold...based on the order of magnitude, it is not that hard. I'm sure all the major retailing outlet in most of Europe and North America can provide the data to M$. As to why would they do so...maybe because M$ paid them to provide the data...afterall...they did budget $500 million to the launch EFFORT.
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Again we are back to the fact thats it's just an estimate and we have no idea how accurate it is assuming it is even that rather then just claiming shiped are sold because they seem sold out in most places
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They are ALL estimates! Oh my goodness you are so frustrating! Even Nintendo's internal tracking service is an "estimation".
Get over the fact that Kinect is selling much better than you want. Accept that what we have is sold to consumers numbers, because they are. According to Aaron Greenberg and MS it is sold to consumers, not shipped.
Please stop spreading FUD as that is a bannable offense.
Quite frankly I'm appalled that mod staff haven't banned you yet after you have constantly tried to troll the 360 bringing up the old RROD talk, claiming MS is lying about figures, etc.
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Sony's numbers aren't estimates, and with 500 million in advertising it better be selling good and since MS estimated that 68% failrate was within industry average I don't trust their math
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Shipped numbers aren't estimates. Thanks for stating the obvious. All sold to consumer numbers are estimates. You were praising Nintendo so much and saying they can do track sold to consumbers, but it's actually still just an estimate.
OH NO's! That means it is just a guess and we have no idea how accurate Nintendo's sold to consumers numbers are!
So if you are willing to accept Nintendo's "estimation/guess" to be reliable then you would also have to accept Microsoft's on Kinect.
It's selling more than good. It's selling amazingly well, better than the competition which I think is what really is bothering you and keeps you arguing a losing battle on these threads.
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