OntheEdgeofthemirror said:
nightsurge said:
OntheEdgeofthemirror said:
nightsurge said:
Jadedx said:
OntheEdgeofthemirror said:
nightsurge said:
OntheEdgeofthemirror said:
nightsurge said:
OntheEdgeofthemirror said:
One thing always bothers me when MS or any major company releases sold to consumer numbers, how the hell do they know exactly how much every single retailer has sold world wide, bottom line they don't they are either guessing or releasing shipped numbers when it's close to being sold out because they can get away with it
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How can you say that? Every single retailer worldwide will know exactly how many of each item they sold to consumers. They have to keep track of this by law. It would be very simple for MS to contact those retailers and cumulate all of them together.
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simple to contact one not to contact literally millions, it's a waste of money and manpower for something a company really doesn't need to know not to mention the fact that the companies don't have to release the numbers to MS, the policy of many might be to not release that kind of information so no it is not a simple matter of a few phones calls not to mention laws vary from country to country, something people seem to forget the world is bigger then the US
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They don't need to contact millions though. They only need to contact the worldwide headquarters of the top 50-100 video game/electronics related retailers. Those should cover 95% or more of total sales and the rest can be very easily estimated.
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There is that word again, like I said in my original post it's either a guess or a lie, and you just proved my point, shipped numbers are exactly, sold to consumers are a guess, however you want to sugar coat it, it's a guess and you don't know how many worldwide release their numbers, you don't know how long it takes to get to their worldwide, you don't know how many smaller stores are selling them (there are far more then 100 video game retailers worldwide, you are obviously ignoring anything that isn't a massive chain store) that 95% is made up, so again it's a guess or a lie and not accurate
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Wow, you must have been dropped on your head as a child or something.
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Lol. And while my numbers are purely guesses as I have no knowledge of how they do it, it is a very very likely explanation.
Microsoft themselves say the figures are sold through to consumers. Obviously as big of a corporation as they are, they can have quite an extensive tracking system to know these figures. Just because you can't fathom it or want to believe MS is lying, doesn't make it so.
I'm sorry, I tried to give you reasonable explanations but it is clear now that you just don't want to accept that Kinect is selling so massively well.
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http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2010/nov10/11-29msxboxblackfridaymopr.mspx
"Kinect is now available at more than 60,000 retailers in 38 countries"
and nintendo is the only one with a tracking system, MS doesn't have one, and tracking systems aren't reliable anyways, so again even with your best explanations it's a guess, also I don't see anywhere in that article that says it's sold to consumers anyways
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You are trying to make it sound like the whole number is a guess. That is not the case. Only the very small percentage of untrackable locations are estimated, which does not dilute the numbers at all. Also, where is your proof of Nintendo's tracking service and how do you know MS doesn't have one? You need to back up claims like those.
In the article it specifically says they are well on their way to reach their sales goal of 5 million sold to consumers. Their 1 million in 10 days was sold to consumers, and their now 2.5 million in 25 days is sold to consumers. I'm so sorry your bias will not allow you to accept this.
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Even a 5% margin of error means it could be 2.375 instead of 2.5 million, and theres no guarantee it's that tight either, and frankly I know nothing about nintendos tracking system and I don't know MS doesn't have one but I don't see any evidence it has one either, and again where does it say these numbers are sold to consumers, even 5 million shipped is on their way to reach 5 million sold to consumers, because shipped consoles turn into sold consoles, so again where does it say it's sold to consumers I'm not biased, I'm the only one who's not
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