VGC Mafia Round 22 Game Thread

[theRepublic]

theprof00 said:

TruckOSaurus said:

Grrr at the Quick Reply box loading correctly every other time.

So I'll be true to my word and throw this First Day chatting topic: Do you believe that townies should ALWAYS tell the truth? Or do you believe certain circumstances excuse a townie lie?

vote: truckOsaurus

This is a blatant flame starter. Trying to get someone lynched behind some warped idea about rules  and how the game works. 

Lies are not a problem because townies shouldn't trust anyone other than themselves anyway. The real victims of a pro-town lie are the mafia, because mafia will generally take townies at their word depending on how the lie is presented. 

Think about it. If I lie and claim something I'm not, it's misleads the mafia because they have to think about that player. "Are they lying", "Totally bluffing", "Let's avoid that player".

Now, a normal town doesn't have to think about stuff like that because town should never take anything at face value. Well there you have it. Lying is important and has its own purposes and usefulness.

FoS: theprof00

He said he was going to bring this up in the sign up thread and he did.  Who is he trying to get lynched here?  I don't see any names.  You are trying to make this seem much more threatening than it is.

Lynch-all-liars may not be an actual rule, but whether you like it or not, it is how this game is played.  People who get caught in lies get lynched.  People who seem like they are lying get lynched.  People who seem the most truthful live.

Lying can get townies lynched, but as Truck said earlier, townies that lie and then die before revealing their lie can really screw up the town's furture search for scum.  The lie may have the town operating with false information, or it may create a place for scum to hide.

Could you come up with specific, limited circumstances where a townie lying would be beneficial?  I'm sure you could.  That doesn't mean I will condone it.  It is a slippery slope and I don't want players going down that path.  During the course of the game, the given circumstances of a situation are not entirely known and could easily make a lie backfire.  Even something seemingly as simple as a doctor claiming to be a vanilla townie could turn into a clusterfuck if a tracker or watcher knows otherwise.