When do you think ps3 will outsell 360

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Michael-5 said:

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Michael-5 said:

3. How many people have a gaming quality PC? If you ever compare multi-console/PC games, PC game sales are close to 1/10th console game sales. A game releasing on a PC still makes it a console exclusive, and that still is a valid arguement for exclusivity. Even then most 360 exclusives for 2011, are complete exclusives and do not see a PC version.

As for FFXIII it was announced multiplatform 6 months before its Japanese launch and 9 months before it's worldwide launch. As for FFXIII Versus, anything is possible, graphically it's completly possible to run it on the 360, it's not that different from RE5, just the 360 version will need like 3 Disks to account for all the HD videos.

4. Demon Souls and Valkeria Chronicles came out in 2009 in Americas, so for me they aren't 2010 games. Uncharted and InFAMOUS are also 2009 games, You said recently 360 has seen less exclusives then PS3 and in 2010 that is definatly not the case. I just wanted to prove your statement in your initial post is false, and it's true, in 2010 360 had at least the same # of exclusives if not more. Just a matter of preference.

Spliner Cell Conviction has not been announced to for the PS3, so right now it's exclusives, and ME2 can only be bought on 360/PS3 right now right? So it's exclusive. you also don't get the same DLC support on the PS3 version, so ME3 for PS3 will always be inferior to ME2 360.

I could also easily add 10 more games to that list I made, those were just 2010 exclusives. Just because you don't like 360 exclusives, don't go out an use that as an arguement to why PS3 would outsell 360 in the future. Last I checked PS3/360 exclusives sell about the same.

3. Unfortunately, you can't know sales numbers for PC as virtually all tracking firms have no clue as to how popular digital distribution has become. Services like Steam now have 30 million active users (meaning they all have gaming quality PCs and purchase games), and that's only a single download service. Publishers such as EA have their own download services, but none of them release sales figures.

What we do know is that certain games like Mass Effect 2 saw similar sales numbers at release on the PC and 360, and Dragon Age Origins actually sold better on PC than the console counterparts. Just because a game is console exclusive doesn't mean the PC version won't eat into console sales. Many people will play the game on PC.

4. Those games aren't full exclusives. They're console exclusives. I play Mass Effect 2 on PC, not 360. I don't need a 360 to play it (although I have one). Last time I checked the definition used for an "exclusive" on VGChartz is that it has to be a full (as in completely exclusive on a single platform, not PC/360) exclusive. PC/360 or PC/PS3 are "console exclusives".

I'd also like to know how you can forsee the DLC support of ME2 & 3 on PS3 considerring neither have been released. Considerring how late ME2 is in comming to PS3 I would guess Sony have forced EA to put some of the DLC in the game for free.

3. True, and most PC games sales are probably digital, but some games are not available on Steam or other download services (e.g. Gears of War 1), and they still acheice a 10 to 1 sales ratio console to PC.

However It depends on the game, I can't say all games sell better on consoles, RPG's like Dragon Age do post quite substantial PC sales. Good point you made, but a console exclusive, is still some form of exclusive, and when comparing the 360 to PS3 lineup, console exclusives should still be taken into consideration, and the 360 has a good 2011 lineup. You can't say PS3's lineup is better simply because a third of the 360 exclusives come out on PC.

4. I never said anything about Mass Effect 3, I dunno whats the story on that game.

Mass Effect 2 on PS3 I've read will only be a port of the original game, with an added cinematic explaining what events happened in the original title, the cerberus network add on, and some of the DLC, but not all of it. The reasoning for Mass Effect 2 comming to the PS3 is because EA aquired the rights to the franchise after ME1, and unlike EA has no reason to keep the game exclusive to Microsoft systems.

Also it is a port, it was not originaly designed with PS3 specs in hand, it won't run as well as other timed exclusives (which were timed from the start).

Still good points, I'll admit PC gaming is substantial, but when comparing consoles to one another, a console exclusive is still some form of exclusive, or reason to get one console over the other, and still takes away the arguement that PS3 has had a better lineup recently, or will in the future. Also most 360 exclusives are pure exclusives, only non pure exclusives MS has this year are Fable 3, Conviction, Supreme Commander 2, and Metro 2033. Halo, Alan Wake, Crackdown, Kinect/games, among others are still pure exclusives, and Fable is a timed 360 pure exclusive.

3. I believe Gears1 is available on GFWL. Furthermore, it's probably not the best example as it was released 1 year after the 360 version and was ported very poorly (including some horrible bugs that prevented me from playing it). Virtually all PC games are now available via download services and of course, certain genres and game types will sell better than others. I can't imagine Fifa or Pro Evo sell particularly well on PC for instance.

As you say, console exclusive is still exclusive in some regards. But for numerous people, they will see they can get a game on PC and that can act as a negative for 360. For instance, when I was looking to buy my next gen console, the first I bought was Wii because it offered the most unique (and different from PC) experience, followed by PS3 due to the full exclusives and then 360. The library of 360 looks less unique to other consoles which is why some may see the 360 library as weaker.

This has definately improved however with the examples you gave.

4. You did mention ME3 in your earlier post if you look. I'm gonna guess it's just a typo, but it was a bit confusing.

My point was that nothing is finalised as of yet. The DLC not in the game as part of the package, may still be available for purchase on PSN. I also read that the PS3 will get an extra 6 hour campaign, which again, may or may not come to PC/360 (it should/better do though).