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Makaha said:
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Seece said:
Makaha said:
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Makaha said:

well, there is a factor in the 360 reaching 50 million--

 

if Nintendo does cut the price on the Wii, it will KILL Kinect sales

 

so a Wii price cut would do two things: increase Wii hardware sales, AND destroy Kinect sales

 

I'm not saying that Nintendo will cut the price of the Wii.

 

I'm saying that if Nintendo did cut the price of the Wii, parents would see a $ 150 Wii versus a $ 300 KInect bundle.  Which one do you think they will buy?

Especially in this economy.

It would absolutely kill Kinect.

 

Personally, I think Nintendo would be dumb not to cut the price, and soon.

I honestly think if Nintendo cut the Wii price, MS will monitor first 3 weeks of sale and if it's not as they'd hope, they'll cut for black friday.

 

I don't know about that....

 

That would make Microsoft look really bad....

 

Here they are, marketing and releasing a brand new product--Kinect--at a price they'll already state in commercials (in the next month or so).  And now, after the Wii cuts the price, MS will say in commercials "we are dropping the price!!"

 

That would look really bad ,

to me anyway

Well I know what you mean, it will look like a failed product, legally though they won't be allowed to even call it a price cut after 3 weeks (at least in this country, product needs to have had the previous price for at least 3 months, IIRC) so I imagine the majority of people Kinect is actually aimed at will think no less than "oh that's nice, the price has gone down!", the people that bought it in the first 3 weeks would get a rebate/refund on their money more than likely. Anyway I was actually talking about the 360 getting a price cut not Kinect. Of which they havn't cut the arcade price in 2 years now.

 

the thing about Kinect is....

 

the way life works is....

well if you go back to before the Wii released, everyone said that the Wii will be a huge huge failure, it is doomed, and  they laughed at the Wii, and look at what happened?  The Wii was an incredible success

 

Now, before Kinect releases, everyone is saying Kinect will be a huge gigantic success and sell tons of 360s....

so if you look at the trend, you can see what's going to happen, life is just unpredictable.....

 

It's just setting everyone up for big disappointment....

 

the Kinect software lineup is very weak, and it just doesn't have a killer app like the Wii had with Wii Sports

 

it may push some hardware in the beginning because of the new-ness, but unless the Kinect experience is extremely COMPELLING, Kinect sales will fade fast

 

people are just setting themselves up fro major disappointment

 

 


Or it could be a huge success just like the Wii.

There are huge amounts of hype associated with both releases.  And I have no doubts that the Kinect will boost 360 sales a lot.  Will it hit 50 mil by years end?  I am going to guess and say probably will.

Nice thread.



what?!?

 

almost everyone thought the Wii would fail, and fail miserably, most people thought it was a stupid idea, but look at what happened, the Wii becomes one of the most successful consoles of all time

 

now this time everyone thinks Kinect will be huge and successful, but in life, many times, the opposite happens, again just look at the Wii, because life is unpredictable

If businesses could predict things, Sony or MS would have come up with something like the Wii first, but you cannot predict these things, or else everyone would be successul in business

 

If Nintendo truly saw Kinect as a threat, they would drop the price of the Wii....

because Nintendo could DEFINATELY afford a Wii price cut....hell the Wii was profitable when it first released unlike the PS3 and 360 which took a loss on every console for a while

Nintendo could easily cut the price of the Wii and that would destroy the Kinect launch

 

but just watch....

 

If Nintendo does NOT cut the price of the Wii before the launch of Kinect, it means that Nintendo is SURE that Kinect will not do well, as they don't see Kinect as a threat at all, so they won't cut the price

 

think about it, why wouldn't Nintendo cut the price of the Wii?


A $50 price cut would probably cost Nintendo between $2-3 billion  in lost potential revenue at this point in the Wii's lifecycle so it would be a pretty big deal for them to have one.  They're probably waiting to see how Kinect plays out first and if it dominates X'mas and shows no signs of stopping by the end of the first quarter of 2011 you can bet Nintendo will have that price cut.