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jarrod said:
ZechsMerquise said:
jarrod said:

Nintendo's own lineup is fine, great even... the problem (as ever) is with 3rd parties.

Also, DQX will be the "last Wii hit", not Zelda SS. :P

This year has seen some great third party games - Red Steel 2, Monster Hunter Tri, Tatsunoko vs. Capcom have all been great. There's still Goldeneye, COD:BO and Sonic Colours still to come.

Great games sure, but outside MH3 and Sonic Colors, they're all still "B team" efforts.  That's still fundamentally the 3rd party problem on Wii, they almost always bring the B/C tier efforts and cry foul when it doesn't merit AAA sales....

Agreed - to a degree! I get a little tired of hearing about how badly third parties perform on Wii. There have been a lot of BIG third party games that also flop on the HD consoles, but for some reason people don;t enjoy talking about that, what's more when an HD game flops it has a lot more to lose. Just look at the underperformance of Lost Planet 2 or the poor openings of Castlevania and Enslaved.

 There has a been a lot of third party success on Wii, it just hasn't been for more traditional games. But the problem isn't just with the Wii. Great games like Bayonetta fail to do a million on either system, but games like Medal of Honor (which to by all accounts is lack lustre to say the least) sell well.