sapphi_snake said:
Barozi said:
sapphi_snake said:
Barozi said:
sapphi_snake said:
@Barozi:
Freedom of religion, a Christian value? - That's a secular value, not a Chirsitan one.
No forced marriages, a Chrisitan value? - It was practiced by Chrisitans up until a century ago. It's a cultural value, that has nothing to do with religion.
Equality for women, a Chrisitan value? - Islam has that one too. But in both Islam and Chrisitanity women are considered to be "equal" to men, but "different", each having already established roles (a woman's place is in the home, the man is the provider etc.). The "equality" between genders in Chrisitanity is totally different from teh actual equality in modern Western society.
She doesn't want anyone to become Christian with that statement.
Forcing someone to subscribe to the values of a certain religion is no different than forcing them to convert to said religion. Religion is something personal, so individuals can choose to follow the values of a certain religion, however society at large musn't adhere to the moral teachings of any religion, if religious freedom is something that society strives for of course.
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Christian values are strongly tied with Western values. There's not much more to say, it's basically a synonym.
We Germans understand that it's the same and we Germans don't give a crap if you want to understand it or not.
As for the last part. Again she doesn't want you to believe in Jesus or such crap she simply states that certain moslem traditions are not welcomed in this country, because they are against the law (mostly human rights).
And I'm unbaptizied and didn't even vote for her party.
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If you want to think that, go ahead. It's contrary to reality though.
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only in your own reality though
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Whatever dude. Read some books on the subject and see who's living in his own reality.
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Or even better you simply accept that people don't need to agree with your opinion.
This thread is a pretty good example why religion sucks btw.
Debating over a hilariously unimportant topic *Oh noez I'm butthurt because she used the word Christian etc.*
People just have too much time...
ATHEISM FTW !!!!!!!!
