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Joelcool7 said:

1. I'm sorry to say to the OP, athiests have been just as violent as religious leaders. Look at every country where Athiesm is the official religion of the state. China for example or the old Soviet Union. Both killed hundreds of thousands that we know of Christians and alot of other faiths. Probubly millions if we count those who were killed in secret.

2. Fact is their are extremists in all faiths and beliefs regardless of whether they are religious people or athiests. We just live in a sick day and age. You also forget all the athiest murderers have you been in a prison? No I bet you haven't but alot of the murder inmates are Athiests.

3. What about the thousands of charities that are promoted by religion. They are the reason Haiti and Pakistan are being helped. I have never heard of a single athiest organisation doing shit to help others in need. What about Martin Luther King and other great Christian, Muslim , Jewish leaders who promote peace and prosperity?

1. Atheism isn't a religion. Whilst atheists have been violent and commanded other to do violent acts it is never in the name of atheism; it's for a political/national/other ideaology. Religion on the other hand offers an easy tool of manipulation (much like political and national ideaologies). That tool doesn't exist with atheism and requires another to take its place.

2. Statistically, the vast majority of inmates are actually religious and not atheist. Whilst some may be atheists the majority are religious and to suggest otherwise is false. One could equally say (for the sake of debate) that a lot of Christians are homophobic. Some are, but it isn't indicative of Christianity or anything in general.

3. Non-religious charities exist and continue to do good work. No charity will ever do anything in the name of atheism (unlike religious charities) in the same way atrocious acts from Hitler and Stalin were not done in the name of atheism. Cancer Research would be one charity that does very good and important work without need of religous input/guidance.