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goddog said:
theonewhoisme said:
goddog said:
theonewhoisme said:
goddog said:
theonewhoisme said:

How do you know exactly what VG had it at back then, I remember it being .3 million or at least under a million, and even still your forgetting that they under-tracked it by 1 million 4 years ago and then added it a few months later, so thats still next to none in stores, when ps3 had the shortages with 2 million (plus the extra month) apparently in stores, so yeah anyway you look at it VG is wrong, they seem to be giving 360 more sales then it has and ignoring alot of ps3 sales 

vgc has an adjustments thread, please find it in there if you would. i looked up your number, and traced it. i do not remember the point in time your talking about, where it was over/under by 300k i do recal a major adjust ment for all three consoles this summer do to under tracking across the board around  year end for ms (june)

edit there were ps3 shortages this year? hmm i dont remember that. last year yes lots of them sporadically all year, but this year?

maybe I'm thinking of the wrong fiscal report, the one that had ps3 behind by 2 mil and it got alot of press, I remember there being ps3 shortages around that time too, and again even with all you said I'm not seeing how VG chartz is accurate, they seem to be greatly biased towards the 360, I'm pretty sure next shipped numbers we get from MS and Sony will have a difference of 4-5 million at the most, instead of the 6-7 VG chartz has, when that happens would you maintain that Sony is over shipping again, for the 3rd or 4th time according to VG chartz


the difference of two to three million is from the q ending in june, we are days away from the next quarter ending, a quarter in which MS launched a new sku, and most likely shipped mass volumes of consoles. if you are right about VGC we would see it in octobers report from sony with say 5 million ps3s on shelves according to vgc. honestly i can see 2 million or 3 million on shelves, there was appoint in 07 when the 360 had close to 3.5 million  on shelves after christmas. MS shipping results reflected this by slowing down for half a year.

ill also reiterate i do not remember PS3 shortages this year. any mention of it by sony? they normally mention these things. a because it means they are selling better then expected or b because its nab explanation for missing targets if there are manufacturing difficulties

october will be a very telling month of reports for our current quarter,

yeah the next report should settle it once and for all, as for shortages 

http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2010/02/15/us-faces-ps3-shortage/

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/02/12/sony-ps3-supply-to-be-tight-over-coming-months/

so that would be for first Q of the year. we can look at numbers here and then sonys numbers winter and spring shipping numbers. by summer that should have been cleared up or possible over shipping as a reaction to the shortage caused by holiday/slim/price cut demand of winter 09Q and ramping up of slim production.

 "Yes. The strong demand carrying through the holidays was evident and early in the month we [knew] there was going to be limited supply of the PS3 at retail in January. We're working closely with the retail channel to meet this demand, but expect tight supply for the coming months."
the above could be clear indication of an over correction in supply in the first half of the year ramped up production to meet an anticipated demand and over guessed it.as mentioned in my prior post this Q well be very informative, not only for sony, but for MS showing movement of its slim and nintendos slowdown in shipping

thank you for the link by the way. official sony and MS statements are always the best for comparison

I remember people having trouble getting a ps3 months after that though, it was all over the forums, and again VG chartz had ps3 "over shipping" for a few Qs in a row from what I heard (didn't take notice until the 2 million behind) but yea if VG chartz is behind the ps3s shipped again I will have no doubt they are being biased towards MS and are very inaccurate