Halo Reach vs Halo 3 1st Week By The Numbers

[Michael-5]

Hyruken said:

CGI-Quality said:

Hyruken said:

The problem with the GT5 and Halo comparison is that the rules by which they can be compared constantly changes. The Sony fans normally make some claim and then back away from it. Like we all remember the GT5 will sell more then Reach first week comments a year ago. That then changed to lifetime and so on.

Now GT5 will be the top selling PS3 exclusive. I don't think anyone can deny that. It will go on to have very good sales. But will it have Halo Reach sales? To put some sort of perspective on it Reach just did 4m in 5 days on sale. It will probably do at least another 1m next week making it 5m in 12 days. The top selling PS3 exclusive is MGS4 with 4.9m. Meaning Reach just outsold the biggest exclusive on PS3 in just under 2 weeks.

For Reach to do that it has to sell big in emeaa and in americas. If you look at the Reach numbers in EMEAA your see it sold just as many as GT4 did in it's first week. Meaning the whole "EMEAA doesn't like Halo" thing is not true. Halo 3 remains the biggest selling exclusive in emeaa.

The main defence of GT5 doing Halo numbers is the whole EMEAA will make up the difference thing. But will it really? If you look at GT4 numbers your see that EMEAA did 1m, 800k in americas and 700k in Japan. So let's assume GT5 does better and sells 1m in US, 800k in Japan that is 1.8m. Do you really think EMEAA is going to do double what GT4 did with half the console GT4 had to sell to? and do say 2.2m? Because that is what it will have to do and that is unrealistic.

I don't recall anyone claiming GT5 would sell more than Reach in the first week. It's always been a lifetime argument.

Comparing GT with MGS is also off, as GT clearly will outsell it on the basis of brand alone.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=112124 (people saying it will outsell Halo 3/Reach sales, first post say's 5m first week). If you also follow the link in there to the orgional thread your see lot's of people basically say the same thing. SO while you say "nobody said that", what you really mean is "most normal people didn't say it".

MGS4 is the top selling PS3 exclusive. It is all well and good talking about stuff that happened almost 10 years ago but you can only really compare against the here and now. And because of that you can only compare MGS4 to GT5 as that is the top game currently THIS GEN that is exclusive to the PS3. As i said GT5 will outsell that.

Also i should of mentioned that Halo 3 outsold GT4, so doesn't that show it has legs too?

Why are we talking about GT now?

My opinion, your right about Halo: Reach it's going to outsell GT5 lifetime.

If you compare GT4 Prologue sales in Japan with GT5 prologue sales, GT4P sold 0.79 million units in the single year before GT4 came out, GT5P sold 0.57 million units in almost 2 years, and GT5 still isn't out.

Halo has legs, bigs ones in Noth America, smaller ones in EMEAA. Week one sales have always been strong for the Halo franchise, but GT has been known to sell strongly over time (look at GT3).

Regardless this thread is not about GT, and Halo Reach, despite having a 1st week sales lower then many expected, will probably still outsell Halo 3 by 2-3 million.

P.S. People did originally say GT5 will outsell Halo: Reach 1st week, it then became a total arguement..