Reasonable said:
kowenicki said:
Reasonable said:
All this shows is what anyone sensible knew, which was that most Halo gamers already had a 360 and that it was unlikey we'd see a huge jump in sales from Halo 3. No surprise there. Anyone thinking Reach was going to see sales growth over Halo 3 in ratio to the 360 user base growth was crazy, frankly.
Actually, I think this is positive for the 360. It shows it no longer relies on Halo the way the Xbox did and the 360 did early in it's life. Now the 360 has sold to lots of people who are not interested in Halo, who just see it as a good console for playing the kind of games they like to on, be that Modern Warfare or Assassin's Creed or Mass Effect or whatever.
This is progress for MS. If the 360, like the Xbox before it, remained locked in as mainly a console to get Halo on it simply wouldn't have seen the sales growth it has.
Reach shows a decent growth of 5% or so and to expect much more would be - well - unreasonable I think.
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Nobody thought this.
BHR tries to intimate this to say reach is a failure... because quite frankly he is trying to downplay the massive sales of the best loved and biggest selling exclusive franchise outiside of the Wii this gen.
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Yup. That's my point. No one apart from maybe a few die hard fans expected anything more than the sales we've seen - which are of course huge. I guess it should also be noted that, if a console's install base is growing healthily then the attach rate has to go down vs big sellers released early in a consoles life - again there is nothing unexpected there.
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I disagree, I still think Halo: Reach total sales will be 2-3 million more then Halo 3. Having similar opening week sales means that there is the same number of die hard halo fans. However a lot of people buy Halo casually, months, even years after the games release. It's going to have stronger long term sales.
I also don't think you should generalize your opinions. I know many people who expected a modest growth for Halo based on install base.