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Khuutra said:

It would be pretty interesting for them to talk about that, but if you're into that then the Mother series (Mother 2/EarthBound in particular) would be right up your alley. No other series I can think of is quite as aware of its own medium as this one.

That's why I brought it up. They touched upon the subject of expressing oneself through one's work, and if I any designers were to discuss the issue, I feel it should be these two.

I know Itoi is famus for it, but that aspect of Miyamoto's work never seems to be given any attention; Mario is 'only' an example classic, 'fun' game design - as if that precluded any possibility for it to elicit thought or beauty...