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superchunk said:

4. I consider it part of the Metroid genre. You always lose everything and gain it back. No different here. The mechanism is just as silly in both instances, at least this one in regards to weaponry makes sense.

8. "The word he used - outsider - pierced my heart." - proves my initial point. She states over and over in the game that he is someone of very high importance in her life and is striving for his approval. Regardless if that is irrational or not it fits the story line presented perfectly and does nothing to remove her soldier capabilities at all except that people irrationally see feminine actions as weak.

Her character before this was not specifically ever portrayed beyond doing her job. So, you can't argue that nothing portrayed her as feminine previously as nothing has ever portrayed her in any other way either.

All this game did was bring up a sore and emotional situation for her that she obviously still hadn't gotten over to the point of satisfaction and she then worked hard throughout the game to create this acceptance that in the end wasn't even required based on Adam's own words.

4. Horse shit! As a mechanic it's fine, but it's not just a mechanic, it's a funciton of the narrative. Are you willing ot say that you would defend the Gravity Suit and the Varia Suit and the Grapple Beam and the freaking Ice Beam? Would you pretend that they never happened? Would you pretend that there was good reason for it? Which is it? Like I said: this one doesn't get handwaved away.

8: Why do you keep painting this as inherently feminine? It's not. These are the actions of someone who's seeking validation in spite of accomplishing more than a galaxy's worth of armies, some who seeks validation from a father figure in spite of the fact that she's accomplished more than he has, more than all the people he's ever commanded put otgether, more than all the people he's ever known put together. How is that feminine? How can you possibly not see this as problematic?

9. I never argued that she wasn't portrayed as inherently feminine, jsut that femininity has never been the definingp oint of her character, and that's true. There was nothing maternal in sparing the baby Metroid and then giving it to scientists who were goign to dissect it for science. There was nothing intrinsically feminine in the look of sorrow on her face as the temple on Tallon IV collapsed. She was human, but her femininity was besides the point.

10. It made her into a character who had sore and emotional points from far in her past. That's not in keeping with prior characterizations in any way, it's adding elements that never belonged before. They added in shit htat didn't need to be there, nad it was to the game's detriment, in no small part thanks to the butchering of her own characterization.