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madskillz on 28 December 2007
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jimmay said:
madskillz said:
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Unfortunately, PS3 worshippers are using old data to predict a future outcome. Yes, folks love the PS brand, but this is a new generation and saying the PS3 will beat the 360 because the PS2 beat the Xbox is insane.

Let's look at this in business terms - the PS3, in the period of a year, dropped 2-3 SKUs (if you count the Euro 60gb PS3 with limited BC), had 2-3 price cuts and introed 3 new SKUs to try and generate sales. Now that the holidays are here and folks are more than generous to spend money on gifts and Sony supporters are declaring victory. Sorry, but your console is what ... 7 million units behind. Wake me up with your rants when it's knocking on the Wii's door.

Any product that goes through 3 deleted skus, 2 price cuts and 3 new skus WITHIN ITS FIRST YEAR is a failure. It was rolled out without a true plan and absolutely no commitment to success. Sony did all of that in the PS3's first year because it wasn't producing the awesome results it was expecting.

And to think - the 360 is still selling consoles. Of course it's going to lose market share - it started at 100 percent, and I guess it's uphill from there.

Sony fanbots should just admit - this is a small start, but Sony's gotta brainwash a whole lotta folks AND stop the 360 from selling to dominate. And then, there's the Wii.

As much as folks wanna call me an Xbot, I am looking at the entire situation for the result. And the truth is, the 360 and PS3 are fighting for second. Even if the Wii is a bust, there's enough hype to leave it in first place for a long, long time.

And another reason the PS3 is in a bad position - true, folks are buying PS3s and anticipating a flood of games. What if those games keep getting delayed ... and delayed ... and delayed? Will you continue to say 'I am satisfied with this mediocre game' or just throw in the towel? Sony hasn't learned jack about pleasing customers. And sadly, most customers are so blinded by Sony they will buy a product from them without doing any research whatsoever.

And let's not forget the bottom line - getting paid. Will Sony do more fire sales to stay in the hunt? They are gaining market share, but losing tons of money on the *cheapiest* BR player on the market ... and it PLAYS GAMES!

Sony fans - enjoy this seasonal bump - and don't be shocked when sales for the PS3 plummet like a lead balloon.

So your angry that Sony fans are positive?

There not bashing other consoles and other fanboys like you just did. All they are doing is saying we doing ok and that pisses you off for some reason.


No, I am not pissed off at all. What I am saying is - folks are declaring victory and the battle hasn't begun. It would be sooo funny if the PS3 was leading all the consoles, but it's not even a strong 3rd place holder currently. Sure, it can change, but from what I have seen on several forums all over the Web, PS3 fanboys are quick to condemn the 360 - state these default arguments - the 360 has no built-in wifi, 33% failure rate, no high def player and costs $60 a year to play on LIVE. And that's not just here - that's universal. When you buy a PS3, are you required to learn that creed?

Is it like the Manchurian Candidate chant? "Raymond Shaw is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life." - just replace a few words: "The PS3 has built-in wifi, a high-definition player, free online multiplayer and the best gaming experience on the planet."

I just love reading from posters passionate about the PS3. It's so much fun! The Wii folks will laugh and the 360 boys will rant some, but not like die-hard PS3 bots. Based on that alone, and knowing I'll be online with those same folks, I would rather stick with the LIVE bunch or game online with my Wii.


Sorry but that is a load of rubbish, for every demented ps3 fanboy their is a nintendo or xbox360 one. The ps3 has made great improvements compared to what it was doing and now sells on par with what the 360 does. Looking into the future the ps3 has the best games coming out so why shouldn't people be enthuiastic for it.


There's absolutely no point in arguing with someone who won't see from another person's viewpoint. I can see the PS3's saving graces, but I also see it realistically. You have little to no proof that the Sony will continue upward after the holidays. Based on ... what? Re-read some old Game Informer mags and listen to them talk about the availablity of the PS3 vs. the Wii/360 console drought. And not just them, but the Electronic Gaming Monthly edition with the smashed tomato on the cover.

It's really a show of desparation on your part. You are clinging - and I use that term sparingly - to a morsel of info. So what it's selling more than the 360. Sure, 100K is really, really going to chip away at a 7M plus lead. When the 360 is getting beat handedly in all regions, sure, I'll admit it. But it's not - and barely beating the 360 by 100K overall. Sorry, but it's the holidays and the 40gb is really appealing to euro gamers. Ok ... but are you convinced the PS3 will maintain the slim lead it has on the 360? Will you retreat in silence when folks pull this thread back out to flash in your face when your statements are false?

And you really, really have a lot of confidence in a company who's squandered the massive gains it earned in the PS1-PS2 generations. It's a shell of what it used to be. And the PS isn't even a PS with *core values.* It's nothing more than a cheap attempt by Sony to get back into this next-gen race. That's it. I mean, Sony had the nerve to get more folks to buy PS3 games - and removed the BC to get it done. Forget that. I won't have a company prod me to buy something when they want me to unless they give it to me.