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Oh so your not confident about the Wii now are you? I thought that all P.S.3 and 360 fans thought that the Wii was dead? Your not willing to take a bet between Wii or 360 now? I guess your right the Wii will outsell the 360 yet again this Holiday...anyway I am a Nintendo fans not a Sony fan so I honestly don't care if 360 outsells P.S.3 this Holiday but I know it won't and so I will take the bet...I say that P.S.3 will outsell 360 Worldwide this Holiday!(Total sales of the final 10 weeks of the year)
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Very few people think the Wii is dead. However, it's days of outselling PS3 and 360 combined are certainly over, and it's likely to hemorrhage marketshare for the rest of the generation.
As for sales this holiday, the 360 or the Wii could come out on top, it's impossible to say at this point. The only thing that's certain is what is coming in last - PS3.
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I am positive that the Wii will be #1 again this Holiday no doubt...While you have your opinions I have mine and I am confident that P.S.3 will beat out 360 Worldwide Holiday 2010.
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how are you confident the ps3 will outsell the 360 this holiday. the 360 is far above the ps3 now, and ps3 has GT5 while 360 has reach, fable, and black ops console is sure to sell alot better on 360. then kinect is also coming out in october and looks to be much more popular then ps move(i mean come on the only games i know of at launch are sports champion and eyepet). the 360 is more then 60k above ps3 weekly. how can u expect that to disapear when 360 has more games and better accesories. even being confident the wii will outsell the 360 this holiday is dumb. u cant just expect it to pick up in the holidays for no reason. unless you expect a price cut from both ps3 and wii this holiday i dont know how you are so confident.
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The Wii has had zero big games this year besides for Super Mario Galaxy 2 and games(along with price) sell consoles. When games actually are out for the Wii it will start selling along with the normal huge Holiday boost for Wii it will be #1 yet again this Holiday. Wii games sell for many years and I fully expect Mario Kart Wii, Wii Fit Plus, and New Super Mario Bros. Wii(Along with the bundled Wii Sports and Resort) to still help sell consoles this Holiday...That along with the new games such as Wii Party witch I fully expect to be the N.S.M.B.W of 2010. Also the Wii brand has become so big this Gen that it only needs 2 big games a year to outsell the P.S.3 and 360 and this year the Wii has at least 3! Also price will have a big effect even if new Motion controls are out the Wii is still miles cheaper and will help it be the big family item again like always.
As for P.S.3>360 is because the 360 Slim effect will be gone by the time the Holiday's start because many old 360 owners are the ones who are buying the Slim. In America I wouldn't be surprised if 360 was close to Wii #'s but in Others P.S.3 will be ahead of 360 for most of the year starting in October and Japan I don't need to explain...To be honest in my opinion I say the 360 will only be in the race this Holiday because of America which I don't think is enough to beat P.S.3 Worldwide. P.S.3 will be strong in Others and Japan this year. Also not that it matters all that much but Sony has 7 Move games published by them due to come out in 2010 as well as others that can use it like Heavy Rain and LittleBigPlanet 2.
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I agree 100% on you about Wii picking up pace during the Holdiays, for your reasons, and also for the added reason that Wii sales are generally strongest during the holidays (probably because parents buy it for their kids and stuff).
As for PS3 >360, I completly disagree. The PS3 experienced it's Slim effect until, well until the 360 made a Slim model. It's true the PS3 Slim had the old SKU to face with where the 360 Slim has the PS3 Slim to face with, but the Slim effect will not die out by the holidays. Holiday sales begin to pick up in September and October, and the 360 is still outselling the PS3 worldwide by 60k a week, or by over 30%. Without Halo the 360 Slim would continue to hold 360 sales until GT5, but with Halo, the 360 gets a big early holiday boost.
As for EMEAA, thats iffy, at best Sony can expect to match sales when GT5 come out, but until then it's still 360 territory (remember UK is heavily 360 biased, and it sells more consoles then any other country in EMEAA). However MS has Kinect, and the success of Kinect is hard to predict. It may sell as well as a good game, it may push more units then GT5 or Halo.
I don't think the PS3 will experience a lead in sales over the 360 until 2011, and even then thats a maybe. The one year PS3 outsold 360, I blaime for the Slim, and Sony can't pull that move again. The 360 has Halo, Kinect, and Fable, and all three will push more consoles then GT5, Move, and LBP2. GT5 versus Halo is debatable, but then there is also a 360 bundled Call of Duty, the slim effect, and 360 generally has been the beeter selling system in the past. NO new PS3 Slim, means 360 edge, this is not 2009.
BTW, there will be 21 Move titles by the end of the year in Americas, and 20 Kinect games in Americas. However a couple move games are simply compatible with games currently out (like Resident Evil 5: Gold Edition).
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See your smart enough to know that Wii will be #1 again this Holiday!
As far as P.S.3 and 360 go you make some good points but L.B.P.2 will be bigger in Others than Fable 3 and G.T.5 will be bigger in Others than Halo Reach and Move V.S Kinect could go either way. 360 will be HUGE in America this year but not to be against the 360(I am a Nintendo fan and am not on Sony or Microsofts side) but I don't see it very big in Others when the Holiday's start and that together with Japan could outsell American 360 #'s and could cause 360 to be #3 in the end.(Holiday's) Also we don't know Sony or Nintendo's full Holiday plans yet either...Microsoft could have something left that they didn't announce yet but I doubt it and with Sony I would say that their is about a 50% chance that they haven't announced everything yet(Price cut?) Also with Nintendo I am 95% sure that they have something planned for this year that we don't know fully about yet and they will announce whatever it is probably on September 29th at their fall Conference. Another Price cut could happen or even a new color or even a surprise game but I am willing to bet that the little pulse reading item that almost everyone has forgotten about will come out by the end of 2010 and nobody know it could fail but also could be the next Wii Fit! |
I want to cut out a bunch of old quotes, but it won't let me. When you reply, if you can, thank you. It's getting too messy.
LittleBigPlanet 2 will be bigger then Fable 3 in EMEAA, but not my much (1.63 versus 1.23 mil in EMEAA), and I do agree definatly that GT5 will be bigger in all parts EMEAA except for UK. As for Kinect versus Move, I'm betting that the Kinect will be significantly more popular then the Move in Europe. I mean if it's 5x more popular in Americas (and it's actually looking to be over 10x as popular here), I really doubt that the Move will be more popular in EMEAA. I'll admit that the Kinect won't be as popular in EMEAA as it is in Americas, but at least in the order of 2x.
Anyway, you make a very valid point, in EMEAA, Sony has better products, which will likely boost PS3 sales higher then 360 sales, especially GT5. I agree 100%, and I beleive that once GT5 comes out PS3 will start to outsell the 360 in EMEAA, for at least the rest of the holidays. To be fair Halo 3 still sold 3/11 million copies there, so it's still pretty significant, where GT Prologue saw about 2/3rds of it's sales in EMEAA.
However the arguement is which system PS3 or 360 will do better in the holidays worldwide, not just EMEAA and Japan. Unfortunatly for Sony, Americas is the biggest market, one which Microsoft dominates, and GT isn't anywhere nearly as big of a franchise as Halo here. I also beleive the Slim effect will last in Americas well into 2011, I mean 360 was outselling PS3 with the old SKU before. Also Fable is a bigger game then LBP, especially in Americas, and Lionhead studios expects this one to be the best selling installment.
So I agree with what your saying, but I still think Microsoft will hold an EMEAA lead until GT5, and because of the Kinect, it will still get respectable sales in EMEAA even after GT5. In Americas, I see the PS3 being severly outsold. GT5 is big, don't get me wrong, it will sell consoles. Just 360 will be superior saleswise until GT5, and during the GT5 launch window, for a short period of time, PS3 might see slightly stronger sales then 360 WW. However Halo, and the Slim Effect will ensure that overall 360 sales > PS3 this holidays.
It may follow sales like Americas 360 >> PS3, EMEAA PS3 = 360 (or is close to this at least), Japan PS3 >>>>>>>>>> 360. However Americas is the biggest market, so.... 360 will still outsell the PS3 WW this holidays.
That got rather long...
As for surprise announcements, Nintendo is definatly the most likely to announce something new (most likely a price cut, or a bigger bundle, a new colour is unlikely), but as for PS3 and 360 we can't speculate. If PS3 gets a price cut, Microsoft will do the same.
As for loyalties, if anything I am a Nintendo fan (not 360 or PS3). I admit I don't own a Wii, but thats simply because I'm waiting on a backward compadible successor (I think Wii games cost too much for what they are worth now). I just argue about PS3 vs 360 sales because we all know Wii is supperior, and it fights for itself. 360 versus PS3 is more interesting, and this holidays it will definatly be interesting.
