highwaystar101 said:
Slimebeast said:
highwaystar101 said:
*Sigh* You do realise that you applied a false terminology that I never used for my point? I never used the term "normal" in the way accuse me of. The only time I even used the word was to relate the chances of being homosexual to that of the general population. Talk about bad argumentation.
The specific quote you picked out said "regular conditions", which is far closer to the "typical/Atypical" terminology that MrBubbles used than the "normal/unnormal" terminology you pinned to my point.
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Here you are clearly dividing homosexuality into normal and abnormal types:
"Basically the homosexuality in CAH isn't really natural, it's a symptom of the condition, and therefore different from regular homosexuality. It's not the same."
And you still haven't explained why these guys would suffer from their homosexuality while the other guys would not:
"To put it simply: Homosexuals who are so under regular conditions do not suffer from it. Whereas people with CAH do suffer from their homosexuality."
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What I meant by the first statement is that the homosexuality in CAH doesn't come about in the same way the majority of homosexual cases, it's directly linked to the condition. The mechanisms may be the same (or at least believed to be) in that it is caused by hormones, but it is different in the root cause. It can fully be described as an atypical form of homosexuality, in that it is not homosexuality under the same conditions as the majority of cases of homosexuality.
As for my second statement. I object to you saying I haven't explained why they suffer, as I explained about the woman I used to know who suffered from it. You just didn't find that satisfying, so I'll explain a little further using other resources.
Women who suffer from CAH do so because they have been exposed to high levels of the androgen prenatally, and this has caused them to become more "masculinised". They share many of the same characteristics as men even though they often recognise their gender role as female, so their homosexuality comes as part of a "gender confusion", as opposed to just attraction to the same sex. Mentally it can be quite difficult to cope with, as even from a young age their brains are hard wired to be more masculine, even though they are female.The psychological well being of people with CAH is a concern and often they are required to receive psychological help from an early age to develop with good mental health.
"Relatively positive 'personality functioning' has been reported, based on case work with female adolescents who have received early and adequate medical and psychological care. Another study, however, reported reduced social competence and poorer body image but also a lesser tendency towards 'depressive coping' compared with a control group. The paucity of information on multiple aspects of psychological well-being and quality of life for adults with CAH should concern all health professionals."
(Source)
(On a side note, I don't think the woman I used to know had any psychological help, and she clearly used to struggle to cope with depression)
(But to be honest I shouldn't really have to explain further than their homosexuality is part of their condition and it's one more thing they struggle with. [I know it's not the worst thing they have to cope with by far, but they still have to cope with it]. I guess it's like saying tall people who are tall under regular conditions don't particularly suffer from being tall; however people who are tall because of growth hormone issues do struggle with it as part of their condition: but this isn't really relevant to my point)
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