How many PS3 games will break the 10 million sold barrier?

[Michael-5]

Solid_Snake4RD said:

Michael-5 said:

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 has currently sold 8.37 million units, so it's 1.63 million units away from the 10 million unit mark. It's still selling about 40,000 units weekly, so at this rate, the game will need a little over 40 weeks to break the 10 million barrier. However a sequel is comming out in I beleive 12 weeks? Okay it's not a direct sequel, but it will severly cut Modern Warfare 2 numbers, and by next fall a proper sequel will come out.

Maybe Modern Warfare 2 will break 10 million units sold, but 1.63 million is a lot of units, thats basically how many units Battlefield: Bad Company 2 sold to date on the PS3 (It  sold 1.73 million units to date).

wow you write so muchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

and why the hell are you comparing to BFBC2 and what do you want to prove????????

I'm a big racing fan, and Gran Turismo isn't necessarily the best racing franchise.

what the hell do you even want to say by that?????????

and even if you don't think its not the best,this is a sales thread not quality judging thread

The point I want to make here is that the 360 has many good-great racing games. Project Gotham Racing 3 and 4, Forza Motorsport 2 and 3, Test Drive: Unlimited are all great racing games, all of which getting higher then 8.5/10 scores, with Forza 3 getting as high as 9.2-9.5 scores. For the period of time from 2005-2010 fall, a portion of the Gran Turismo fans may have switched over.

oh yeah they switched to NFS too on the PS2 but they stil bought GT4

I own Gran Turismo 1-4, and I played them extensivly, Forza is a proper compeditor, and why would I wait for GT5, the only good PS3 simulation racing game, when I have many alternatives on the 360?

even KILLZONE,RESISTANCE are proper competitors but people just run behind HALO

and if you won't wait doesn't mean everybody else won't wait

and for your info GT5P has been released so there has been a good game even if it was a demo and a pretty big one,better than your 'ALTERNATIVES' atleast for its time and still one of the best

Also wait for the best? Right now the best racing simulator is Forza 3, and it's been out for almost a year already. GT5 may get slightly higher ratings, but for the amount of time it took to produce, I don't think it's worth it.

it isn't about you here

Also, Sony doesn't have an official PS3 racing wheel. How can you say GT5 is going to be the best, when there isn't even a proper steering wheel for the game? Yes Logitec make steering wheels, but only on table mounts, and placing it on your lap is uncomforitable (You have a wedge near your crotch, between your legs). This is a big reason why I can see a lot of hardcore racing fans switching over. You can't play GT5 and Forza 3 with a standard controller and complain about which one is better.

you wil see this November

As for competition, you have to realize that a lot of casual PS3 gamers will get Gran Turismo 5, and with Mario Kart being over 3 times as popular (in terms of sales) then ever before, Gran Turismo has more competition. Yes Forza has improved drastically in quality from Forza 1, but thats not the only competition.

LMAO

"Mario KART to cut GT5 sales"

And yes it has been 5 years. Gran Turismo 4 came out in early 2005, and in december of 2004 for Japan. So it's actually almost 6 years. No matter how good the game is going to be, it's not going to be significantly better then Forza 3, and therefore not worth the wait to me. For me, I actually beleive Forza is a better franchise then Gran Turismo, and I can name many reason why. No stupid licencing, no repeating races in the same to to generate enough cash to advance, simulation damage on all cars (GT5 has cosmetic damage on 200 cars), licenced Porsches (Porsches in GT5 are not sold under the Porsche name, but under a tuning company name such as RUF), more race tracks, real time tire deformation, etc.

you are so confident that this world revolves around you

and PS3 was released in 2006 so the game has only been due since its launch not from its previous release and they never announced a release date before the MARCH 2010 release

"simulation on all car".........lmao

aren't you forgetting that forza has way lesser cars and other stuff and detail.

you try so hard,try relaxing sometime

Mind you GT5 is an awesome game, I'm not trying to put GT5 down, I love Gran Turismo, and I plan to buy a copy down the road. It's going to be a big system seller, and an amazing game. Just to balance things out here are reasons why GT5 is better then Forza 3: Better interior graphics, interior rear view shows in car rear window and back seats, shadows are created by a fixed light source in GT5 (in Forza shadows move baised on your cars position, but do not take into account shadows of hills and other vehicles), 16 car racing (not 8), double the cars, rally racing, etc.

WOW,You try to act so innocent and goody goody but pulling down the game and then saying good things about it so that people don't see the real you

I don't know how to edit the code as well as you do so I'm just going to number my responces.

1. I mentioned battlefield: Bad Comapny 2 because Modern Warfare 2 is about 1.6 million units shy of 10 million, thats how many units Battlefield: Bad Company 2, a great FPS alternative, sold. Thats a hug distance. You can't assume it's going to sell that many units already 9 months after launch, and 3 months from a sequel.

However I did compare MW2 (PS3) data to Halo 3 data, and actually MW2 might break 10 million. Halo 3 got 3 million more sales after the 9 month mark, MW2 only needs 1.6 million.

2. Your arguing that GT5 will sell 3-4 times as well as Forza Motorsport because "It's the best Racing Game", my arguement is that if you actually played Forza for 360, and GTR for PC, you will see that there are flaws to GT that may have people consider alternatives. Even if it is the best, I don't think it will be that much better then Forza, and as someone who owns ALL past Forza's and Gran Turismo titles (I own Forza 1-3, and GT 1-4, as well as PSP), my opinion should be taken seriously.

I won't lie, I do like Forza 2 and 3 over all past Gran Turismo games. Mainly because after each race I earn enough money to purchase a new car and don't have to repeat races under the exact same circumstances (car, track, opponents, etc)

3. GT4 came out in 2005, and since 2005 a lot of great racing games have come out for people who eventually got bored of GT4, or who just wanted more modern cars. You completly ignored my point, which was that a lot of GT fans may have switched over to a different Racing Sim (Forza), or another casual racer (PGR).

4. This is actually a good point.

Killzone and Resistance are proper compeditors to Halo and Gears of War, but you should compare the ratings. Halo gets 9.6-9.8 ratings, and Gears is generally around 9.5. Killzone and Resistance usually get 9.1-9.2 ratings.

Still a valid point, Forza got 9.2-9.5 ratings, and sold somewhere inbetween Gears and Resistance. If games sold exclusivly off ratings, and GT5 gets 9.8 It could sell just as well as Halo.

This is a good point, I won't argue with this one too much. I will say that Killzone 1 had low reviews (7.5's/10), so that could have also affected sales, and Halo 3 came out only 3 years after Halo 2, not 5 like Killzone and GT.

There are other factors to consider, but baised on ratings alone (assuming GT gets a score greater then 9.5), it may break 10 million.

5. huh? You said some people want to wait for the best, I said a lot of people want the best right now, and I think since Forza 2, for the last 3 years Forza has been "the best."

6. A large chunck of GT sales are to Casual gamers (same goes for Halo, and Call of Duty). PS2 was the console for casual gamers last gen, and PS1 was the same the generation before that. This time around Wii is the casual gamer system, and Mario Kart sales have tripled. Using this arguement, GT sales may very well half prior installments.

7. I'm just nerdy and don't like when people make claims without evidence to back them up. I can make a thread saying GT5 will sell 3 million, and a swarm of people will come and be annoyed.

Anyway, I refer to myself in this arguement because I can't say that, some or most, people would want ot wait on GT5 when Forza 3 is already out. I only know for certain what I feel, and probably a sizable chunk of gamers, especially the hardcore race fans. you can disagree all you want, but you can't say im wrong.

As for GT5, it's been 5 years since GT4 came out, you count it from the release of the prior installment, not launch. That would make no sence. Did no new cars come out from 2005-2006 that people may want to drive? If there was no update in that timeframe then yes people were waiting on a new game, and it counts.

As for Gran Turismo having more cars as an excuse on why most cars have no damage, you can't use graphics as an excuse. GT5 has been in development for 5 years, way more then Forza. They have had time to put it in their cars, but you know they can't. Want to know why? Turn 10 bought the rights to simulation damage on cars in a video game. GT5 can only do cosmetic damage to cars, and games like Burnout and Grid avoid the issue altogether by not being a simulator. Thats why GT5 only has cosmetic damage, and it only has it on about 1/5th the cars because Polyphony decided to add this in late into the games development.

It's definatly a reason why many people would prefer Forza over GT.

As for this graphics arguement, exteriorwise, I see no difference from Forza and gran Turismo. Interior I'll agree GT wins because it shows the interior in the rear view, but graphically I don't see a difference, and I don't think there really is one.

8. Your......silly, I own both a PS3 and a 360, and I own all prior GT and Forza games. I'm also getting GT5, maybe not on launch day, but in November. I'm not trying to argue that Forza is a better game then Gran Turismo, I'm only arguing that the differences aren't THAT huge in quality. So why do people like you assume GT5 will sell 3 times as well as Forza? Except for GT3, most GT games sell around 10 million units, and there are many reasons to beleive this will be the worst selling one (but not necessarily the worst game of the franchise, probably the best).

My vote is still 1, Modern Warfare 2, and I think it will just barely make it. I still think GT5 will sell at best 8.5 million units, but who knows. It is possible that it will break 10 million, but it's also possible it will sell only 5 million.