16 Million PS3 sold/shipped in Europe to date

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superchunk said:

leo-j said:

superchunk said:

Using the data below I think we can all agree that logically it doesn't make sense. There is something off in the VGC accounting for the PS3 overall. However, I don't think it is just being under-tracked in Europe, but probably over-tracked in other regions.

So, in total VGC isn't off by much, especially not any amount to make anybody scream OMG PS3 IS REALLY WINNING!!!!!

I bet VGC is off by less than 1m worldwide if there were a way to know exactly how much shifted to the end user.

*Data through end of June to compare VGC others/europe with Sony shipped figures.*

	VGC Americas	VCG Japan	VGC Others	VGC % of total sales
PS3	14,310,511	5,307,180	16,164,502	45%

 

Sony Europe	Sony % of total ship	On Shelves in Europe	% of total on shelves
18,000,000	47%	1,835,498	83%

 

VGC Total	Sony Total	On Shelves Total	est on shelves amer/jp
35,782,193	38,000,000	2,217,807	382,309

I disagree greatly

 

SONY ANNOUNCED 38.1 M LTD sales for ps3 as of JUNE 2010

Sony announced a 160GB PS3 today, and it is shipping, the 120GB model did not receive a discount, which shows to me that they aren't much in stock..

So how does that lead to a 2 MILLION amount of consoles on store shelves? Makes zero sense, and I am not betting, but it would not surprise me if the consumer sales are off.. for ps3

1. I said at most 1m low, which would mean I think the number on shelves WORLDWIDE is actually closer to 1.2m not 2.2m.

2. That is a perfectly normal situation for any company, hell, 2m really isn't unexpected.

3. Sony announced the new skus for Europe, there is no way they intend on selling the 120gb unit for the same price as the 160gb unit. It will be discounted as a clearance price when the full NA details come out. Keep in mind this is just a HDD change and box change, so a change in production wasn't that costly in terms of time it takes. So, they could have made that switch easily and just started shipping the 160gb units almost seamlessly over the last couple of weeks.

4. The shipped numbers being discussed have nothing to do with the 160gb unit as these are rounded numbers from their quarterly report which ended months ago. As such you can't derive anything from the new skus that relates to what was shipped/sold back then.

1. The aren't rounded..

2. The 160gb is in stock and shipping in the U.S right now..

3. They did not discount the 120gb in the U.S indicating that they barely have 120gb systems on store shelves.

So what it tells me is that, the fact the 120gb is not being discounted in EUROPE or anywhere else, gives me the belief that there are barely any ps3's lying in "shops" or store shelves.. because the 160GB is not shipping in a month, but shipping right now. There is also no way in hell they over stocked their shipping channel with 120gb ps3's and counted them as "sold"  because the 120gb has been discontinued.

So...?