Another Analyst Suggests Wii 1.5 On the Way

[Mr Puggsly]

milkyjoe said:

Carl2291 said:

jarrod said:

Mr Puggsly said:

jarrod said:

Mr Puggsly said:

Ultimately, if the Wii did a better job moving core 3rd party games it would get more. I think MH3 is the only core game that had genuinely good sales this year. But it still sold significantly less than the PSP games.

What you're arguing is essentially a chicken / egg scenario.  Wii doesn't get AAA core games because it can't sell core games / Wii can't sell core games because it doesn't get AAA core games.  MH3's about the only real one so far, and it's an exception to both rules...

Well I think its proof that the Wii can get respectable sales on already mega popular series. For example, CoD and Resident Evil also has had sold sales. Less popular core games tend to struggle.

These days, less popular core titles tend to struggle regardless of platform.  I'm not seeing much intrinsically unique to Wii in that regard, I can name plenty of low tier core games that struggled on the HD twins, even from the companies behind COD (Activision) and RE (Capcom)... just recently Lost Planet 2, Dark Void, Singularity or Blur come to mind.  Maybe both companies should consider moving core titles away from those platforms?

If anything, the gulf between success and failure seems even more pronounced on the HD twins for 3rd parties, it's arguably a worse choice for the low tier franchises considering the costs and competition.

Not necessarily. You point out some very poorly reviewed games... What about if we look at new core games (This gen) with good reviews?

Bayonetta.
Red Dead (Okay, not really new... But already massively outsold the little known last gen game).
BlazBlue.
UFC Undisputed.
Assassin's Creed. 
BioShock.
Batman: AA.
Dead Space.
Heavy Rain.
Gears of War.
Mass Effect.

That's off of the top of my head, and without going into 1st party Sony efforts. Which would add a LOT to the list.

Now if we do the same for the Wii...? Well, I can't even think of any really. Can you?

If a publisher/developer makes a good quality game on the HD consoles, it generally has great sales. If it is reviewed poorly... It rarely gets good sales. Even some games that ARE reviewed poorly can do slightly well. Haze being proof of this.

You could work for IGN with quality standards like that.

 

Lost Planet 2 - just shy of a 7/10 average.

Dark Void - just shy of a 6/10 average.

Singularity - pushing an 8/10 average.

Blur - just above an 8/10 average.

 

By that reckoning, Singularity and Blur are comfortably 'good' games, Lost Planet 2 is a 'good' game, and Dark Void is a little above 'average'. They are not "very poorly reviewed games" by any sensible definition, unless you're one of those idiotic kids that heralds everything below 9/10 as abhorrent crap.

 

As for the 'Wii 1.5' rumours, they'll be just like all the other rumours that we've had for nearly four years now, and nothing will come of this one either.

Lost Planet 2 - Its in the high 60s, not the mid or high 70s. More importantly, basically all the major websites gave it poor scores. So those are the reviews most people saw.

Dark Void - Read above.

Nobody cared about the other games.

As I already said, you can't complain because not everything on HD consoles is a success. They just have a much better record at selling 3rd party core games than the Wii. And that's a big reason they keep getting support.